Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 advaitin, bhaskar.yr wrote: > > > praNAms Sri Subramanian prabhuji > Hare Krishna > >> bhaskar : > > Interesting point here to be noted is shankara explicitly saying that > *sarvataH pANipAdaM* is *adhyArOpa* & sarvEndriya guNAbhAsaM, sarvEndriya > vivarjitaM etc. as *apavAda* This proves that Atman is ever *nirvikAri & > nirvishEsha* giving us no room to think that it has multiple limbs & > indriya-s!!!...& shAstra deliberately doing this superimposition to teach > us unobjectifiable (apramEya) & attributeless (nirguNa) > parabrahman..Shankara makes this point very clear in his prashnOpanishad > bhAshya while talking on *shOdasha kalA puruSha. He says "atyanta > nirvishEShE hi advayE shuddhE tattvE na shakyaH adhyArOpamaNtarENa > pratipAdya pratipAdanAdi vyavahAraH kartum iti kalAnAm prabhavastityapyayA > ArOpyantE avidyA vishayaH*...how clear & lucid it is!! is it not?? without > keeping the dualistic vyAvahArik drushti how can we define undefinable > Atman?? shAstra with great compassion on us adopting this method & > attributing upAdhi-s to explain upAdhi rahita, nirvishEsha brahman...When > shAstra itself employing this method to teach parabrahman we cannot > question it by using our mundane & conditioned intelligence.. > > VS prabhuji: > > As an aside point, let me mention something amusing. Swami > Paramarthanandaji once mentioned that in the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad > there is a very long discussion just on the origin of the pot. It is > known as 'ghaTabhAshyam'!] > > bhaskar: > > Yes, there is an elaborated discussions on ghatAkAsha & mahAkAsha at > various places in shankara's prasthAna trayi bhAshya...another example is > his gItA bhAshya. On the BG verse, *na asatO vidyAtE bhAvO..na abhAvO > vidyatE sataH* commentary bhagavadpAda deals with this *pot & clay* topic > comprehensively & explains the role of kArya-kAraNa prakriya very > effectively...He says since all kArya-s (effects) as such after examination > reveals the fact that they are nothing but its cause..kArya in the form of > name & form is *asat*..(sarvOvikAraH kAraNa vyatirEkENa anupalabdEH > asaN...)at the end he beautifully explains further that even clay as the > *cause* of the pot is also asat since this clay as an effect is not > appearing different from its cause!!! He says *mrudAdi kAraNasya cha > tatkAraNa vyatirEkENa anupalabdE asatyaM*... > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > bhaskar > Namaste Bhaskar ji, Thanks for those very appropriate quotes from the Acharya's Bhashya. Thanks especially for the Prashnopanishad quote. Regards, subbu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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