* Hot Milk Prasadam *

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabhu,

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

This is from Planting the seed Chapter 19

 

Prabhupäda then sat with his friends, eating the same prasädam as they, with

the addition of a banana and a metal bowl full of hot milk. He would slice

the banana by pushing it downward against the edge of the bowl, letting the

slices fall into the hot milk.

 

 

Your servant,

Nrsimha Kavaca dasa

[Guest guest]

Madhya 3:54

TRANSLATION

Besides the other preparations, there were chipped rice made with milk and

mixed

with bananas, and also white squash boiled in milk. Indeed, it is not possible

to

describe all the preparations that were made.

 

Life comes from Life Morning walk Dec 7,1973

 

Srila Prabhupäda. They are foolish. They will not take good advice. If you give

a

rascal some good advice, he will become angry, just like a serpent. Suppose you

bring a serpent into your home and say, “My dear serpent, please live with me.

Every day I will give you nice food—milk and bananas.” The snake will be very

pleased, but the result will be that its poison will increase, and one day you

will say, “Ah!” [imitates a bitten person.]

 

Lecture June 11, 1968

 

Devotee: Do you want this? It’s pineapple.

Prabhupäda: Distribute prasäda. What is this?

Devotee: Pineapple. There’s apples too.

Prabhupäda: Pineapple? Oh. There is what? What is that?

Devotee: Oh, this is milk and bananas.

Prabhupäda: Oh!

Devotee: Warm milk and bananas. (end)

[Guest guest]

Vasanta das prabhu wrote:

 

> We are now told that the use of bananas in milk offerings is

> totally un-bonafide and may even be bad for your health.

 

 

Please accept my humble obeisances.

 

I recall preparing hot milk with bananas and cardamom as early as

1968 in the Montreal Temple on Avenue du Parc, and offering the

same to Srila Prabhupada, who accepted it with delight.

 

I have also found the recipe for "Banana Nectar" in the Fourth

Printing of the Hare Krishna Cookbook, dated 1973 (page 67),

substantially as I recall we used to make it, although I don't

think we added any butter.

 

All glories to Srila Prabhupada and to Lord Gauranga!

 

Best wishes,

Ananda das

[Guest guest]

this is nectar this is the perfection of the net ,pure SRILA PRABHUPADA NECTAR

anything preform by the spritual is pure nectar so wonderfull SRILA PRABHUPADA

I am going to start offering hot milk with bananas before he goes to sleep

yours

premananda goura das

[Guest guest]

Dear Grantharaja das prabhu,

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. You asked about how we used to

prepare banana milk in Montreal mandir. Indeed, the bananas were mashed

up, then mixed with the milk, which was boiled three times.

 

The boiling was emphasised as important to prevent bacterial

infections spread by raw milk. We would always prepare the milk in a

large pot, stirring carefully and monitoring it to keep the foaming milk

from bubbling over the edge of the pot. When we saw the milk rising in

the pot, we would lift it off the heat to allow it to subside, then heat

it again two more times the same way. Pasteurization like this should not

be neglected. Prabhupada told me that although the milk was already

pasteurized when we bought it from the store, he was training us how to

boil it because someday many of his disciples would be going to India or

Africa to preach. Anyway, besides the health benefits of pasteurizing

milk, Prabhupada also said that boiling the milk makes it more enjoyable

for Lord Krsna, and more digestible for the devotees.

 

Just as it seems Prabhupad viewed modern-day astrologers with

amusement and condescension, he seems to have had a similar view of the

pretenders to Ayurveda. He once said, "Everyone thinks he is Ayurvedic

physician, but mostly they are rascals." He said no real Ayurvedic doctor

would charge money for his services. A genuine Ayurvedic doctor should

live near his patient, and only accept food for his own needs. I don't

know about this Vasant Lal's abilities, or which category of Ayurvedin

Srila Prabhupada would have considered him, but he showed by his own

example that he did not care for any supposed prohibition of bananas with

milk. I have heard of so many nonsense diets in recent years, and meet so

many people nowadays who come to Sunday feasts with real or supposed

allergies to gluten, milk, white flour, high fibre, peanuts, etc., or who

will not eat fruit and vegetables together, or who will not drink cold

liquids, even fruit juice or nectar drink. I don't care to take any

health advice from any of these nonsense people, because they seldom seem

healthy themselves despite their careful attention to avoiding certain

foods they believe are harmful to them. Mostly they are just empty

theorizers.

 

All glories to Srila Prabhupada and to Lord Gauranga.

 

Your servant,

Ananda das

[Guest guest]

COM: Ananda (das) ACBSP (Victoria - CAN) wrote:

 

> [Text 1986405 from COM]

>

> ... Prabhupada told me that although the milk was already

> pasteurized when we bought it from the store, he was training us how to

> boil it because someday many of his disciples would be going to India or

> Africa to preach. Anyway, besides the health benefits of pasteurizing

> milk, Prabhupada also said that boiling the milk makes it more enjoyable

> for Lord Krsna, and more digestible for the devotees.

>

>

> Your servant,

> Ananda das

 

Hare Krsna dasi comments:

 

Actually, according to what I understand from scientific statements, it

appears that boiling commercial milk is good for your heart. Commercial

pasteurized milk is usually also homogenized to keep the fat (cream content)

from rising to the top. I have read that this breaks the fat down into tiny,

tiny globules which can then penetrate through the lining of the intestinal

wall. These tiny fat globules (I think they are called something like "x/o"

particles) are then carried by the blood and deposited near the heart, where

they can gradually cause fat build-ups which obstruct circulation to the

heart and set the stage for heart attacks.

 

According to these scientists, if the milk is not homogenized, the fat

globules are too large to pass through the intestinal wall, and any damage

they can do is reduced or eliminated.

 

When you boil milk, the fat layer once again forms at the top (like the

rabri, which we offer to the Deities in the morning). So it seems to me

pretty obvious that the milk is being "de-homogenized."

 

It is interesting that increase in heart problems is statistically linked to

increased milk consumption. However, since practically everyone in Western

countries who drinks milk, usually drinks cold, homogenized milk, it seems to

me that the statistics are not at all fair.

 

As far as milk allergies are concerned, I wonder if they are caused from

drinking cold milk. The fact is that nearly every mamal is somewhat allergic

to milk in the adult stage. Even cats can get distemper from drinking milk.

Racially, there is one group of human beings that for the most part can drink

milk, and that is humans from Northern Europe -- not including Celtic groups

from Ireland, Scotland, etc. Only the Northern European adult human is not

lactose intolerant.

 

Everyone else is allergic to milk. The people who can drink plain milk are

actually unusual, expecially outside of those with Northern European

ancestry. One anthropologist named Marvin Harris presented some explanation

of why Northern Europeans can drink milk. Most people are allergic.

 

But, if that is so, how can it be that Indians, Mediterraneans, and even

African Hausas use dairy products? The answer is that none of them has a

tradition of drinking plain milk -- especially cold milk. Most of them heat

the milk and mix it with sugar, which somehow makes it more digestible. Or

they process the milk into yogurt or cheese, which changes the chemical

composition. When milk is converted into yogurt, the lactose sugar is broken

down into lactase and something else. Then it is very digestible. Most

people who claim to be allergic to milk find that they can take yogurt with

no problem -- because they are not allergic to the milk itself, but the

lactose sugar within the milk. Yogurt contains no lactose.

 

This information is approximate, based on things that I researched for a BTG

article called "Is Milk for Everyone" some years ago. I hope you will find

it useful.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

[Guest guest]

> Only the Northern European adult human is not

> lactose intolerant.

>

 

There is that Scandinavian connection again. Drinking too much milk to be able

to understand the GHQ position.

[Guest guest]

After I wrote "Just Please, Please, Don't put TURMERIC in the hot

milk!!!!" . . .

 

 

In text 2024308 from COM, Jaya Tirtha Charan das wrote:

 

> Why do you say that mataji ???????? pray tell!!!

 

 

Also, in text 2024449 from COM], Radhe Shyam das (New Delhi) responded:

 

> Why not????

 

 

There are sweet spices and there are pungent or bitter spices and

there are herbs. (This is not an exhaustive classification.) One should

realize that certain spices have affinity for certain foods. Other

foods, being somewhat neutral, may be used with a variety of spices

depending upon what type of preparation you are making.

 

Generally, sweet foods should be used with the sweet spices, i.e.

cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamon, vanilla bean, mace, etc. Milk, being sweet

in nature, is best combined with these spices, especially if you are

going to add sugar to it.

 

If you are using the milk in a cuddy sauce, then yes, use turmeric

(mustard seeds and other pungent or bitter spices) for you are not making

a sweet preparation. Otherwise, turmeric is as out of place (rasabhasa)

in hot milk as is paprika or mustard powder. It makes something bitter

which should be sweet.

 

From my experience, having observed the reactions of many devotees to

this preparation, the majority do not care for it. Krsna is pleased when

his devotees are pleased and I have heard many moans over turmeric-milk,

which, I believe, is because it is an improper marriage of sweet and

bitter.

 

Your servant,

Krsnarupa devi dasi

 

 

 

Krsnarupa Devi Dasi

[Guest guest]

> From my experience, having observed the reactions of many devotees to

> this preparation, the majority do not care for it. Krsna is pleased when

> his devotees are pleased and I have heard many moans over turmeric-milk,

> which, I believe, is because it is an improper marriage of sweet and

> bitter.

>

> Your servant,

> Krsnarupa devi dasi

>

> Krsnarupa Devi Dasi

 

Would it be safe to assume that devotees are putting tumeric in milk because

they have seen yellow milk and didn't realise it was saffron? Not that I put

saffron in milk, but I seem to remeber drinking it on occasions.

[Guest guest]

Madhava Gosh das prabhu wrote:

 

> Would it be safe to assume that devotees are putting turmeric in milk

> because they have seen yellow milk and didn't realise it was saffron?

 

Some people have heard turmeric is a "blood purifier", so they want to

put it in everything, but it is no more suitable as a universal

ingredient than ketchup. If one simply wants to attain a golden colour in

milk, it is better to use a little saffron or annatto (sometimes used in

colouring butter in the wintertime). Of course, the saffron will add its

own lovely fragrance. Remember to use saffron sparingly (just a few

threads).

 

Your servant,

Krsnarupa devi dasi