Guest guest Posted February 25, 1999 Report Share Posted February 25, 1999 On 25 Feb 1999, Radha Krsna wrote: > Hare Krsna Dasi wrote: > > So, what can we do in that situation? We're too ignorant to handle bulls, because we have never bothered to implement a systematic varnasrama training program. But, on the other hand, we may lose the ability to use artificial insemination. How will we breed our cows in the 21st century? > Any thoughts? >Radha Krsna wrote: > I grew up on a farm with bulls and big horses all my life. It is a natural training in their handling. I agree it is very dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. I remember Never trust a bull that has a missing link in its chain...if it's meant to be tied up. What happened in Mayapur with our dear Lalu, the king of his heard, I don't want to repeat - one gets accused of exaggeration (and by non agricultural people)......So unless you have a qualified person to design your yards and pens accordingly etc., or keep himself, if there is no neighbour, then best to use AI. Comment 990225: The first time I had a dealing with a bull (I was five) now I am fifty and there has been about 10 years when I have not had daily contact with a bull. What you say is true, I would recommend that a few bulls be kept in the appropriate facility by experienced personel and that be the function of the farm temple. Individual devotees bringing their cow for breeding at the appropriate time. Devotee should try to avoid living away from other Vaisnavas .... for the sake of sanga. In this way we can also meet SP directive to not use AI. ys, Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 1999 Report Share Posted February 25, 1999 The proposal is being made that devotees should leave the bull handling to a devotee farmer who "is experienced." My point is, there are very few of these "experienced" farmer devotees -- which is why it is incredibly difficult to set up or properly maintain a farm community. If we are serious about carrying out Prabhupada's desires, we must fund and maintain training programs so that new farmers can learn to do these things properly. Where are the programs for training new farmers? How is our program sustainable with no training for the future? your servant, Hare Krsna dasi WWW: Rohita (Dasa) ACBSP (New Talavan MS - USA) wrote: > [Text 2121794 from COM] > > On 25 Feb 1999, Radha Krsna wrote: > > > Hare Krsna Dasi wrote: > > > > So, what can we do in that situation? We're too ignorant to handle bulls, > because we have never bothered to implement a systematic varnasrama training > program. But, on the other hand, we may lose the ability to use artificial > insemination. How will we breed our cows in the 21st century? > > > Any thoughts? > > >Radha Krsna wrote: > > I grew up on a farm with bulls and big horses all my life. It is a natural > training in their handling. I agree it is very dangerous if you don't know > what you are doing. I remember Never trust a bull that has a missing link in > its chain...if it's meant to be tied up. What happened in Mayapur with our > dear Lalu, the king of his heard, I don't want to repeat - one gets accused of > exaggeration (and by non agricultural people)......So unless you have a > qualified person to design your yards and pens accordingly etc., or keep > himself, if there is no neighbour, then best to use AI. > > Comment 990225: > The first time I had a dealing with a bull (I was five) now I am fifty and > there has been about 10 years when I have not had daily contact with a bull. > > What you say is true, I would recommend that a few bulls be kept in the > appropriate facility by experienced personel and that be the function of the > farm temple. Individual devotees bringing their cow for breeding at the > appropriate time. Devotee should try to avoid living away from other Vaisnavas > ... for the sake of sanga. In this way we can also meet SP directive to not > use AI. > ys, > Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 1999 Report Share Posted February 26, 1999 Re: Y2K vs. Daddy-in-a-can TextWWW86562 (56 lines) 25-Feb-99 18:41 -0500 Hare Krsna dasi >The proposal is being made that devotees should leave the bull handling to a devotee farmer who "is experienced." My point is, there are very few of these "experienced" farmer devotees -- which is why it is incredibly difficult to set up or properly maintain a farm community. If we are serious about carrying out Prabhupada's desires, we must fund and maintain training programs so that new farmers can learn to do these things properly. >Where are the programs for training new farmers? How is our program sustainable with no training for the future? Comment: OK now a problem has been identified. We need to find out just how devotees are experienced, in what areas and to what proficiency. Once we can identify who is experienced in what field then there is a beginning. At the present time very little is known about each individual qualifications. We can begin by acquiring a database of all cowherds. Once experienced people are found others can be sent to them for training or experience persons could be encouraged to travel and train up others. In much the same way book distributors have been trained up. ys, Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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