Guest guest Posted January 22, 2000 Report Share Posted January 22, 2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Dear Prabhus, The first Section is Care Standards. Some topics are self evident. If anyone sees other topics and has reference please submit. Those that could use some resources are: I PROTECTION Records Possibly some reference as to how to keep good records. Fencing Different types and how to install? II ORGANIZATION OF COW CARE FACILITIES Cow/Land Trusts This is a hard one as there is not yet an established Cow Trust? Perhaps Madhava Gosh has something written, we could give everyone his contact info to receive a copy at a small fee? Or books on trusts and how to establish one? Goshalla- Setting one up, Organizing one Perhaps there is a book written by an Indian author for a cow protection facility? It seems a western book would be not appropriate since their industry is based on slaughter. III Shelter A book on construction of barns. A book on shelter for cow ina warm climate? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.iscowp.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2000 Report Share Posted January 24, 2000 [Text 2951082 from COM] > > > >II ORGANIZATION OF COW CARE FACILITIES > >Cow/Land Trusts >This is a hard one as there is not yet an established Cow Trust? Could someone please enlighten me as to why this is necessary or even desirable? If we are to breed with utmost caution, taking into account the carrying capacity of the land in worst of conditions, and the fact that cows live up to 20 years, why does money have to be accumulated for extra land? Why not supply a self-sufficiency formula e.g. if on a certain small acreage during even a severe drought, taking into account local soil type, a maximum of 6 animals can be supported, then starting with one cow and breeding one every 4 years, one will end up with no more than 5 animals at the end of 20 years. The extra one being the breeder bull, that makes 6. More than this formula is overbreeding. So why encourage overbreeding? Why encourage speedsters on the road, saying its OK, we'll clean up your mess and pay the hospital? Sorry but it don't make sense. If it is for the welfare of the cow, medical etc.then why this can't be covered by ox-produce sales, or adopt-a-cow? Or give most of the care through herbs grown locally? Then strictly adopt-a-cow funds should go to medical care, beyond herbal, because diversion of such funds to other projects is common in my experience. Could someone shed some light as to the necessity? ys, niscala. > ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2000 Report Share Posted January 28, 2000 Noelene Hawkins wrote: > [Text 2954703 from COM] > > [Text 2951082 from COM] > > > > > > > >II ORGANIZATION OF COW CARE FACILITIES > > > >Cow/Land Trusts > >This is a hard one as there is not yet an established Cow Trust? > > Could someone please enlighten me as to why this is necessary or even > desirable? If we are to breed with utmost caution, taking into account the > carrying capacity of the land in worst of conditions, and the fact that cows > live up to 20 years, why does money have to be accumulated for extra land? Sad experience makes it if not necessary, at least desirable. Tying Trusts to overbreeding is really two different subjects. In NV, Kirtanananda bred lots of cows with the idea money from milk sales would pay for th upkeep of the herd. It doesn't work. Coe gives really profitablr milk for one year, but the calf lives 12 or more. So all the money is at the beginning. Even if you were to try to pay withthe milk money, a Trust would be needed so the money would be set aside and paid out over the life of the calf rather than all spent as it came in. Even considering the carrying capacity of the land, what is to assure that the land is going to be there? The Trust would be the landholder to ensure that it is held for the lifetime of the cow. All calculations of preventing over breeding are good and necessary, but if some manager sells the land to met some short term cash flow expediency, it is gone and no longer available for the cow. By placing ownership of the land in Trust, selling is no longer an issue. Don't think it can't happen. For instance, a gurukuli lawsuit could be successful and all the assets seized. The Trust would give protection. > > > So why encourage overbreeding? Why encourage speedsters on the road, saying > its OK, we'll clean up your mess and pay the hospital? Not encouraging over breeding. Assuring the future of sensible breeding. If someone were to apply to the Trust for the assurance the calf would cared for, the Trustees would apply the proper criterion to the situation, deciding on issues of land capacity, stability of breeder, etc. before approving the breeding. > > Sorry but it don't make sense. > If it is for the welfare of the cow, medical etc.then why this can't be > covered by ox-produce sales, Yes, that could be financed or owned by the Trust. Businesses take capital. > or adopt-a-cow? Or give most of the care > through herbs grown locally? Then strictly adopt-a-cow funds should go to > medical care, beyond herbal, because diversion of such funds to other > projects is common in my experience. It is common because the funds are co mingled with general revenues. A gift to a Trust can only be used for the purposes of the Trust. A Trust prevents diversions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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