mayapur and Cow protection. Can it be true.

[Guest guest]

The really important thing is: who is the GBC for Mayapur?

 

Has the GBC filed the quarterly cow protection reports with the Ministry of Cow

Protection and Agriculture?

 

We must have the names of all the cows, calves and bulls/oxen in each report,

as

well as the approximate dates of birth. The report should also list which cows

have died since the last report.

 

That way we have a reliable means of assessing -- at least on the most

rudimentary level -- whether ISKCON Law 507 providing for the minimum standards

for cow protection is conscientiously being carried out by the project.

 

Otherwise, the inevitable alternative is perpetual Kali-Yuga

accusations/denials/coverups/quarrel.

 

I only wish that the GBC could understand that ISKCON Law 507 is intended to

keep the peace in ISKCON by insuring that the cows are properly cared for. If

the cows are not properly cared for, and administration is not properly

attended

to, then it is certain that there cannot possibly be peace in ISKCON.

 

Therefore, I hope that the GBC are diligently fulfilling their duties in the

matter of upholding ISKCON Law 507.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

 

"COM: Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)" wrote:

 

> [Text 2981933 from COM]

>

> Dear prabhus,

> I have heard within the last few days from a devotee very well associated

> with Mayapur that they are still sending away their calves.

>

> Is it true that since last year when I sent a report they are still sending

> away calves? The devotee who informed me is a resident in Mayapur and has an

> interest in cow protection.

>

> We all may have noticed the recent edition of the BTG showing the mayapur

> city development. in one picture there was a man plowing ISKCON land with a

> team of white oxen. I didn't see those oxen last year. All the land was

> cultivated by tractors and rotovators. This picture then is perhaps

> something from the archives. If so it has sent a complete misrepresented

> picture of where mayapur is right now. Perhaps it was a conjecture of the

> future.

>

> On a far more serious note is it true that mayapur is still sending away

> there calves. Last year Mayapur was breeding 40 calves a year. If they have

> sent some away, how many?

>

> Balabhadra Prabhu please can you shed some light on this serious accusation

> regarding Mayapur.

>

> ys

> syamasundara dasa

> Bhaktivedanta Manor

[Guest guest]

>

> On a far more serious note is it true that mayapur is still sending away

> there calves. Last year Mayapur was breeding 40 calves a year. If they have

> sent some away, how many?

>

> Balabhadra Prabhu please can you shed some light on this serious accusation

> regarding Mayapur.

>

> ys

> syamasundara dasa

> Bhaktivedanta Manor

 

Sent calves away, lost major funding. Cause, effect? Still sending calves

away? Funding has picked up again? Hypothesis. If they are still sending

away

calves, they are struggling for funding.

[Guest guest]

Dear Prabhus,

 

Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

 

We have received the following message regarding cow protection at Mayapur.

Please reply to its validity. Also we have never received a GBC cow report

from Mayapur. The Minimum Cow Protection Standards were voted as ISKCON law

507, by the GBC body in February of 1999. The Standards require that GBC

quarterly reports be sent to this Ministry. The GBC may appoint a Monitor to

fulfill these reports. These reports are a protection for your Yatra in that

all facts are contained and if there are unfounded rumors they can be

dissolved. However, we have received not one report, therefore we must ask

you to please report the state of affairs. Please also read the second

letter concerning the GBC reports. ISCOWP can again send these report forms

to you via e-mail along with the Standards. Months ago, the Standards and

report forms were sent via e-mail to all GBC with responsibilities for farm

communities.

 

The Standards are also available on www.iscowp.com . Soon the GBC report

form will be available there also.

 

Looking forward to your prompt reply.

 

Your servant,

Balabhadra das

ISKCON Minister of Cow Protection and Agriculture

 

 

> [Text 2981933 from COM]

>

> Dear prabhus,

> I have heard within the last few days from a devotee very well associated

> with Mayapur that they are still sending away their calves.

>

> Is it true that since last year when I sent a report they are still

sending

> away calves? The devotee who informed me is a resident in Mayapur and has

an

> interest in cow protection.

>

> We all may have noticed the recent edition of the BTG showing the mayapur

> city development. in one picture there was a man plowing ISKCON land with

a

> team of white oxen. I didn't see those oxen last year. All the land was

> cultivated by tractors and rotovators. This picture then is perhaps

> something from the archives. If so it has sent a complete misrepresented

> picture of where mayapur is right now. Perhaps it was a conjecture of the

> future.

>

> On a far more serious note is it true that mayapur is still sending away

> there calves. Last year Mayapur was breeding 40 calves a year. If they

have

> sent some away, how many?

>

> Balabhadra Prabhu please can you shed some light on this serious

accusation

> regarding Mayapur.

>

> ys

> syamasundara dasa

> Bhaktivedanta Manor

>

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COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) <Hare.Krsna.dasi (AT) bbt (DOT) se>

COM: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) bbt (DOT) se>

Cc: COM: Bhaktarupa (das) ACBSP (Bhubaneswara - IN)

<Bhaktarupa.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Hari Sauri (das) ACBSP

<Hari.Sauri.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Kalakantha (das) ACBSP (Alachua - USA)

<Kalakantha.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Nagaraja (das) ACBSP (BTG) (Alachua, FL -

USA) <Nagaraja.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Dayaram (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)

<Dayaram.JPS (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; Noma Petroff <npetroff (AT) Bowdoin (DOT) EDU>

Wednesday, February 02, 2000 5:13 PM

Re: mayapur and Cow protection. Can it be true.

 

 

> [Text 2982408 from COM]

>

> The really important thing is: who is the GBC for Mayapur?

>

> Has the GBC filed the quarterly cow protection reports with the Ministry

of Cow

> Protection and Agriculture?

>

> We must have the names of all the cows, calves and bulls/oxen in each

report,

> as

> well as the approximate dates of birth. The report should also list which

cows

> have died since the last report.

>

> That way we have a reliable means of assessing -- at least on the most

> rudimentary level -- whether ISKCON Law 507 providing for the minimum

standards

> for cow protection is conscientiously being carried out by the project.

>

> Otherwise, the inevitable alternative is perpetual Kali-Yuga

> accusations/denials/coverups/quarrel.

>

> I only wish that the GBC could understand that ISKCON Law 507 is intended

to

> keep the peace in ISKCON by insuring that the cows are properly cared for.

If

> the cows are not properly cared for, and administration is not properly

> attended

> to, then it is certain that there cannot possibly be peace in ISKCON.

>

> Therefore, I hope that the GBC are diligently fulfilling their duties in

the

> matter of upholding ISKCON Law 507.

>

> your servant,

>

> Hare Krsna dasi

>

[Guest guest]

"COM: ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA)" wrote:

 

> [Text 2984312 from COM]

>

> Dear Prabhus,

>

> Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

>

> We have received the following message regarding cow protection at Mayapur.

> Please reply to its validity. Also we have never received a GBC cow report

> from Mayapur. The Minimum Cow Protection Standards were voted as ISKCON law

> 507, by the GBC body in February of 1999. The Standards require that GBC

> quarterly reports be sent to this Ministry. The GBC may appoint a Monitor to

> fulfill these reports. These reports are a protection for your Yatra in that

> all facts are contained and if there are unfounded rumors they can be

> dissolved. However, we have received not one report, therefore we must ask

> you to please report the state of affairs. Please also read the second

> letter concerning the GBC reports. ISCOWP can again send these report forms

> to you via e-mail along with the Standards. Months ago, the Standards and

> report forms were sent via e-mail to all GBC with responsibilities for farm

> communities.

>

> The Standards are also available on www.iscowp.com . Soon the GBC report

> form will be available there also.

>

> Looking forward to your prompt reply.

>

> Your servant,

> Balabhadra das

> ISKCON Minister of Cow Protection and Agriculture

 

Hare Krsna dasi comments:

 

Of particular importance is that when the GBC files the report, he must inspect

the cows' facilities and also must have a private meeting with the cowherd.

This is essential to insure that the concerns of the cowherds, who are often

less articulate and less able to hold their own in an official meeting, are not

brushed aside by some other administrative authority -- no matter how

well-meaning -- of the temple. Our recent experience with the slaughter of

cows

at Murari Sevaka, where the GBC conscientiously maintained regular contact with

the temple president, points strongly to the indispensible value of providing a

forum for direct and private discussion between the GBC and the cowherd.

 

This communication which is essential for the welfare of Krsna's cows, calves

and bulls, is provided for by the following segment of ISKCON Law 507. Please

note that even if a monitor is appointed to make 3 of the 4 reports required

per

year, the GBC is required to meet personally with the cowherds at least once

per

year. This is a most important provision of the Law.

 

***********************************************

 

XIV LOCAL GBC RESPONSIBILITY

 

 

Recommended

 

fb.. 1) The GBC Should Quarterly

a) Meet with cowherds and ox teamsters. This meeting should be a minimum of 1

hour and private.

b) Visit every cow facility and traveling program and review records. (See

Standard 1)

c) Present written reports to the Ministry of Cow Protection and Agriculture.

(Report forms will be provided to the GBC)

 

 

fc.. 2) Investigation of Abuses When a GBC receives reports of cow abuse in

his/her locale, the complaint must be investigated by the GBC and if found

true,

the situation must be corrected by consultation with local Farm Council and the

Ministry.

 

 

fd.. 3) Follow-up by Investigation Team. Where no action has been initiated

after one week following investigation or if the Ministry deems the action

insufficient, the Ministry will appoint an investigation team to create a

report

specifying actions needed to correct the situation.

 

 

fe.. 4) ISKCON's Ministry of Justice Involvement. If corrections are not

initiated within one month following the initial abuse report, the problem will

be referred to ISKCON's Ministry of Justice for further action to protect the

cows.

 

 

Permitted

 

ff.. 1) Monitor Appointed Substitute.

The GBC may appoint a monitor to represent him in investigating cow abuse in

relation to these standards and to fulfill his quarterly meetings and reports.

The GBC must personally make 1 private one hour visitation to the cowherds

annually and in addition visit the cow facilities annually, the monitor

fulfilling all other duties.

 

fg.. 2) Selection of Monitor.

The monitor may be chosen from the Local Farm Council (the intent being he is

knowledgeable in agricultural practices) or come from outside the community

chosen because of nonagricultural reasons) and to be chosen at the GBC's

discretion.

 

fh.. 3) Response to Abuses

Permitted standards are the same as recommended standards #2,3,4 above.

 

 

 

Not Allowed

Failure to meet even permitted standards.