Can we get back into this discussion

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On 28 Feb 2000, Mangal Artika wrote:

 

> On 19 Feb 2000, Rohita Dasa wrote:

> > There is no need for house land to exceed 1 acre, it should be purchased

outright not rented or leased. In ISKCON it has been ascertained that unless

it belongs to one person (family) it will not be taken care of properly. On

this one acre is situated the family home, storage sheds (incl. livestock) and

a family garden.

> > Ys, Rohita dasa

>

> Mangala Artika Dasa:

> You would need at least two acres to put a house on because of the

constraints of the septic system and the well in fact if my memmory is still

right it is required in MS by the health dept. for that reason, I know we have

squeezed them on one before but it was a diffucult sittuation and everything

must be placed just right to achive that and somtimes that is not always

possible.

 

Comment:

I can not accept that, in Bay St. Louis there are many lots all under an acre

in size, some of them use septic others are connected to the sewage system.

Also it appears many on this conference are leaning toward compost toilets

which by-passes the problem all together. In the case of layout being

insufficient for septic than I say delete that thought and use compost toilet

or equivalent.

 

Also, I presume you are thinking of the proximity of the well to the septic

and the house as per Govt. standards. I was thinking of a village setup where

the following takes place - say you use septic - temple lays out the land with

emphasis on agricultural use of land. Marginal type land that is suitable for

septic is chosen, a road layed and plots (1 acre in size) layed out along the

road. A well is secured in a central location with pipes to all lots. Say the

well serves ten plots, now comes the advantages of this plan,

 

1. The land you farm you can lease from the temple, you only need land for

your home and associated structures. (presume 1 ac. cost is 3,000, this is a

lot cheaper than say 40 acs. 120,000.) Maybe you will lease grazing land and

some cropland - payment in % of produce.

2. The cost and maintenance of the well is repaid to the temple by

splitting

expenses by 1/10th. (3,000 for well and distribution lines) cost to individual

300. That is presuming that the village is made-up of ten family units.

3. Same for the road. 5,000 for village, 500 for individual

4. Each house has to put in its own septic. 1,000 or a government

approved

waste disposal system.

5. Each house can be built by that owner or the temple can construct a

basic

unit that the individual can modify as need requires.

 

Cost of setup (house excluded) 4,800 instead of 128,000 [120,000 (home estate

and farmland) + 2,000 (well) + 5,000 (1/2 mile of road) + 1,000 (septic)]. A

savings of 80,000, which should cover the cost of barns and house. That is a

bargain to get land and utilities for less than 5,000. Sure you have

neighbours that are close, you do not have to associate all the time with

them, and you can have their dwellings separated from you by hedge and tree

rows. If you want these people can be like your extended family.

 

This is a lot better than asking for the temple to give you - you are grhastra

and you are asking the temple to support you! Give you house and land free no

charge - mostly likely you will only abuse the gift. If you have to pay for

it, even though it is at a reduced cost, then you will appreciate it and use

it with greater wisdom.

Ys,

Rohita dasa