Guest guest Posted March 5, 2001 Report Share Posted March 5, 2001 Present day follow up to this conversation: Guest (2) (Indian man): Now the program in the > village, Swamiji, how to... > Prabhupada: Village... Just like you acquire some > land. That you will get. > It is not very... Is it difficult? > Guest (2): No, sir. > Prabhupada: Just we are doing so many places. So you > produce your own food > grains, not for making money but just for feeding > yourself and the animals, > cows. Keep cows, as many cows as possible, and > produce, till the ground, > field, and make water supply arrangement. If the > investment is required, we > shall do that. You have no worry about investment. > We shall bring money from > anywhere. But the work must be done very nicely. > There must be good > arrangement for water supply and for plowing and > keeping the cows in order. > Then you get sufficient milk, sufficient food grains > and produce your own > cloth. The girls and ladies, they can spine (spin) > thread, and from the > thread you make cloth, handlooms. So your first > necessities of life, eating, > and make little cottage, sleeping... And if you want > sex, get yourself > married, live peacefully. And when you are there you > can defend yourself. So > the first necessity is how to eat and how to cover. > That you have to > provide. That is not difficult. You can do it. And > then you become peaceful, > no anxiety for your maintenance. And then cultivate > this spiritual knowledge > the same way. Have a temple there. Have... Go on > chanting, offering > prasadam. You have got your food grains. Don't be > dependent on anyone else. > Become self-independent. And don't be after money. > Simply produce your bare > necessities of life. Keep yourself fit, strong. And > chant Hare Krsna, read > book. Then you'll grow strong. Is there any > difficulty? > Guest (1): No, Swamiji. > > >>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation -- October 5, > 1975, Mauritius Prabhupada said: Just like you acquire some > land. That you will get. > It is not very... Is it difficult? > Guest (2): No, sir. Guest (2) (Englishman)...But Prabhupada, after 30 years of trying we are finding it fairly dificult still. The land is very dificult to get and we need people to work the land, and they do not come or stay for long. The investment is very large. If the > investment is required, we > shall do that. You have no worry about investment. > We shall bring money from > anywhere. But the work must be done very nicely. But it is not coming so freely now. When you were here it came eaier, now many farms are closing down. to do the work nicely should that not include properly funding the farm projects? There are so many expenses, from the land to the bulidings and other expenses. How can the work be doon nicely when money is a constant worry? So > the first necessity is how to eat and how to cover. > That you have to > provide. That is not difficult. You can do it. And > then you become peaceful, > no anxiety for your maintenance But many are not free for anxiety now, the work is hard, little investment, many people do not want to do this work. You say not to work for moneys sake, but somehow we must live and feed ourselves. Guest (2): To bring more people in our movement... > Prabhupada: They should be trained up, more people. > Just like I went alone > in Europe and America. So I have trained them. So it > will depend on your > training power, the more people will be attracted. > If you advertise, "Come > here," and if you have no power to attract them, > then it will not be... You > must be attractive to bring them. And that is > spiritual attraction. You must > behave yourself nicely. Then people will come. If > you become purified, then > naturally they will come. Just like if you prepare > nice preparation with > pure ghee, customers will be naturally attracted and > they will pay and > purchase. And if you prepare rubbish thing, one man > may be cheated, but that > will not be attraction for the general. Purity is > required. That will > attract. Param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam > bhavan [bg. 10.12]. One > must be pure. Then he will be able to attract. So if > they see practically > that "These people are very happy; they have no > anxiety," then they will be > attracted. Is it not? What is the difficulty? But if > you want brothel and > night dancing and wine and meat-eating, then it is > spoiled. It becomes > impure. To become pure is not at all difficult. > Rather, to become impure, it > is difficult. But people, with all difficulties, > they are becoming impure. > Otherwise the idea which I am giving, you can start > anywhere, anywhere, any > part of the world. It doesn't matter. Locally you > produce your own food. You > get your own cloth. Have sufficient milk, > vegetables. Then what you want > more? And chant Hare Krsna. This is Vedic > civilization: plain living, high > thinking. And poor thinking, poor in thought, poor > in behavior, and living > with motorcar and this, that, nonsense. It is all > nonsense civilization. > > >>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation -- October 5, > 1975, Mauritius So it > will depend on your > training power, the more people will be attracted. > If you advertise, "Come > here," and if you have no power to attract them, > then it will not be... You > must be attractive to bring them. And that is > spiritual attraction. You must > behave yourself nicely. Then people will come. So if > they see practically > that "These people are very happy; they have no > anxiety," then they will be > attracted. Is it not? What is the difficulty? But at the moment it is not like that, we see devotees with much anxiety, working in the city selling all sorts of stuff, and the devotees on the farm, only a few farms are working well, but the rest produce little and many are being abandoned. The attraction is still there but it is seen as a very dificult and unrewarding job work on the farm. Many who do have little time for themselves as the expenses are so many to look after so many animals, especially as so many are not productive. Investment is needed, but it does not come, people too though they do not come, and when they do they do not stay. In many communities the farm animals are waiting to die and none are being born to replace them, it is as if many are packing up the idea. In some farms cows are sold for ultimate slaughter, what do we do? Get email at your own domain with Mail. http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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