Guest guest Posted May 29, 1999 Report Share Posted May 29, 1999 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Dear Prabhus, PAMHO. AGTSP. All GBC in charge of farms have received the The Minimum Cow Protection Standards and GBC Report form. Your servant, Chayadevi ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.angelfire.com/co/iscowp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 1999 Report Share Posted May 30, 1999 Yee haaa! Oops, excuse me, er, ah, Hari Boool! "COM: ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2358013 from COM] > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" > > Dear Prabhus, > > PAMHO. AGTSP. > > All GBC in charge of farms have received the The Minimum Cow Protection > Standards and GBC Report form. > > Your servant, > Chayadevi > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.angelfire.com/co/iscowp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 1999 Report Share Posted May 30, 1999 Yee haaa! Oops, excuse me, er, ah, Hari Boool! "COM: ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2358013 from COM] > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" > > Dear Prabhus, > > PAMHO. AGTSP. > > All GBC in charge of farms have received the The Minimum Cow Protection > Standards and GBC Report form. > > Your servant, > Chayadevi > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.angelfire.com/co/iscowp What do we do to get a copy ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 1999 Report Share Posted June 1, 1999 Just send an e-mail to ISCOWP (AT) ovnet (DOT) com and you will receive the standards and GBC report form. We have sent yours. yrs, Chayadevi COM: Radha Krsna (das) ACBSP GB (Great Britain) <Radha.Krsna.ACBSP.GB (AT) bbt (DOT) se> COM: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) bbt (DOT) se> Sunday, May 30, 1999 1:50 PM Re: Cow Standards and GBC report form >[Text 2359450 from COM] > >Yee haaa! Oops, excuse me, er, ah, Hari Boool! > >"COM: ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA)" wrote: > >> [Text 2358013 from COM] >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" >> >> Dear Prabhus, >> >> PAMHO. AGTSP. >> >> All GBC in charge of farms have received the The Minimum Cow Protection >> Standards and GBC Report form. >> >> Your servant, >> Chayadevi >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.angelfire.com/co/iscowp > > >What do we do to get a copy ???? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 1999 Report Share Posted June 8, 1999 All GBC in charge of farms have received the The Minimum Cow Protection >> Standards and GBC Report form. >> >> Your servant, >> Chayadevi >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.angelfire.com/co/iscowp > > >What do we do to get a copy ???? > We don't have a GBC here who comes to our Zone very often. Can someone who lives in this country get a copy? Oh, thanks for including it on the E mail. ys rkd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 1999 Report Share Posted June 8, 1999 "COM: Radha Krsna (das) ACBSP GB (Great Britain)" wrote: > [Text 2384195 from COM] > > All GBC in charge of farms have received the The Minimum Cow Protection > >> Standards and GBC Report form. > >> > >> Your servant, > >> Chayadevi > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.angelfire.com/co/iscowp > > > > > >What do we do to get a copy ???? > > > We don't have a GBC here who comes to our Zone very often. Can someone who > lives in this country get a copy? > > Oh, thanks for including it on the E mail. > > ys rkd. Is your farm an ISKCON project or not? If it is an ISKCON project, you now have a GBC who visits your farm 4 times a year -- as per their agreement with the minimum cow protection standards. Since the first set of farm reports from the GBCs are due by July 30, the GBC should visit your farm within the next month and a half -- if it is an official ISKCON farm. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 1999 Report Share Posted June 9, 1999 >Is your farm an ISKCON project or not? If it is an ISKCON project, you now >have a GBC who visits your farm 4 times a year -- as per their agreement with >the minimum cow protection standards. > >Since the first set of farm reports from the GBCs are due by July 30, the GBC >should visit your farm within the next month and a half -- if it is an official >ISKCON farm. wishful thimking? or simply hopeagainsthope- let's just wait'n c howmany gbcs actually turn in a report or even visit the farms (once in a year!), voting is as easy as raising a finger, not so truck'n it out to the countryside...i'd lay wages (if we could) no one's gonna to visit our farm 4xs, and we've got three gbcs... hopefully, nistula dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 1999 Report Share Posted June 9, 1999 On 09 Jun 1999, Nistula das wrote: >Is your farm an ISKCON project or not? If it is an ISKCON project, you now have a GBC who visits your farm 4 times a year -- as per their agreement with the minimum cow protection standards. > >Since the first set of farm reports from the GBCs are due by July 30, the GBC should visit your farm within the next month and a half -- if it is an official ISKCON farm. > wishful thimking? or simply hopeagainsthope- let's just wait'n c howmany gbcs actually turn in a report or even visit the farms (once in a year!), voting is as easy as raising a finger, not so truck'n it out to the countryside...i'd lay wages (if we could) no one's gonna to visit our farm 4xs, and we've got three gbcs... Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada. I understand your view. This is why we made allowance for someone to go on their behalf, a monitor. Now if three GBC can not appoint a monitor or one of them go then that is indeed bad. If that is the case then we need to think of another means to see if the farms are up to the standard and some way to get more participation on their part. Also to see if farms are in the same mode as the GBC - can't be bothered. By the way, who are your GBC there in Pundarik Dham? Ys Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 1999 Report Share Posted June 9, 1999 on 9/6/99 Rohita Dasa wrote: I understand your view. This is why we made allowance for someone to go on their behalf, a monitor. Now if three GBC can not appoint a monitor or one of them go then that is indeed bad. If that is the case then we need to think of another means to see if the farms are up to the standard and some way to get more participation on their part. Also to see if farms are in the same mode as the GBC can't be bothered. By the way, who are your GBC there in Pundarik Dham? ===== on 9/6/99 Hare Krsna dasi wrote: On the other hand, I'm not sure about the exact status of your property. If it is not owned by ISKCON, the GBC are not required to visit it. ===== yes, perhaps a 'monitor' will work - and perhaps i'm being overly cynical, but it's at least spawned by years of experience. and yes, we're an 'official' iskcon (or diety) owned property. once upon a time...there was all this 'kshetra' business and so many 'monitors' appointed and of course reams of forms (i've heard nothing of it after receiving a huge parcel of them) - oh so many years ago. even if the present monitors(?) do send in a few sparsely filled-in quarterly reports, i still feel it'll (what's the word) 'fizzle out' quickly enough - i believe that in the end, it'll be up to the actual caretakers to take a real interest & responsiblilty for reporting.they'll need plenty of encouragement (and reminders). i mean how many temples even keep up with their book points? iskcon is a real big bull to harness... my gbcs? well jayapataka swami (1/0), prabhavisnu swami (1/8) and bhakticharu swami (0/0), the parenthesis indicate the number of visits/letters in the previous 24 months.oh, and our regional secretary, mahavisnu swami, popped in for a day last month after about 4/5 years (to get some pics for his pick).are many rural communities similarly swamped with gbcs eager to support and encourage cow/vad culture as pundarik dham is? i'm interested- how many gbcs have visited new talavan recently? your servant, nistula dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 1999 Report Share Posted June 9, 1999 On 10 Jun 1999, Nistula das wrote: > my gbcs? well jayapataka swami (1/0), prabhavisnu swami (1/8) and bhakticharu swami (0/0), the parenthesis indicate the number of visits/letters in the previous 24 months.oh, and our regional secretary, mahavisnu swami, popped in for a day last month after about 4/5 years (to get some pics for his pick).are many rural communities similarly swamped with gbcs eager to support and encourage cow/vad culture as pundarik dham is? i'm interested- how many gbcs have visited new talavan recently? > your servant, nistula dasa Jayapataka Svami, was coming 2x per year, last year came once (The GBC body had requested he decrease his visits), he is scheduled here in 3 weeks (but is no longer GBC here). Bir Krishna das Goswami, has come once a year for the last 3 years, not at regular intervals. (is now our sole GBC). Hrdayananda dasa Goswami was schedule to come, but the ritvik thing has deverted him. Bhakti Tirtha, comes about every two or three years. Trivikrama, was coming every few years - but some people have requested he not come (they can't handle his 'sadhu style' of speach, he doesn't sugar coat it enough, it embasses them). They all make a 'pilgrimage to Touchstone (our business arm), only Jayapataka Swami has actually gone out walking in the field asking about different things. Sannyasis other than these are seen maybe one or two over a ten year peroid. ys, Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 On 10 Jun 1999, Rohita das wrote: >They all make a 'pilgrimage to Touchstone (our business arm), only Jayapataka >Swami has actually gone out walking in the field asking about different >things. > >Sannyasis other than these are seen maybe one or two over a ten year peroid. i find this a big problem in that as the gbc/sanyasins are not at all into cow culture and varnashram at all (at least all the ones ever visiting here), their disciples or the younger devotees feel its just some weird 'trip' i'm into and prefer to stay in the cities and 'preach', or whatever. ys nistula dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 1999 Report Share Posted June 10, 1999 > cow culture and varnashram at all (at least all the ones ever visiting > here), their disciples or the younger devotees feel its just some weird > 'trip' i'm into and prefer to stay in the cities and 'preach', or whatever. > ys nistula dasa There are many young devotees who are interested in self sufficiency and cow culture - there is hope yet, many of the older devotees are of the mentality you mentioned with strong emphasis on the whatever more commonly called dovetailed. This gives us a wide preaching field, but we have to over come the addiction to their sense grad and encourage simplicity and that small is beautiful. If it is small family thing and done nicely than that is best. Then it meets simple living and high thinking, simple no room for entanglement then thereis time for high thinking. ys, Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 1999 Report Share Posted June 11, 1999 >There are many young devotees who are interested in self sufficiency and cow >culture - there is hope yet, >ys, >Rohita dasa Very glad to hear it, not so many of them in the sub-continent unfortunately. ys, nistula dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 >[Text 2384195 from COM] > >All GBC in charge of farms have received the The Minimum Cow Protection >>> Standards and GBC Report form. >>> >>> Your servant, >>> Chayadevi >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Visit us on the WEB at : http://www.angelfire.com/co/iscowp >> >> >>What do we do to get a copy ???? >> > We don't have a GBC here who comes to our Zone very often. Can someone who >lives in this country get a copy? > >Oh, thanks for including it on the E mail. > >ys rkd. > Just give me an e-mail address and I will send it. yrs, Chayadevi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 >Is your farm an ISKCON project or not? If it is an ISKCON project, you now >have a GBC who visits your farm 4 times a year -- as per their agreement >with >the minimum cow protection standards. Yes, Bhaktivedanta Manor is an ISKCON project and thanks for the info about a GBC who will visit us 4 times a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 "COM: Radha Krsna (das) ACBSP GB (Great Britain)" wrote: > [Text 2404934 from COM] > > >gbcs actually turn in a report or even visit the farms (once in a year!), > >voting is as easy as raising a finger, not so truck'n it out to the > >countryside...i'd lay wages (if we could) no one's gonna to visit our farm > >4xs, and we've got three gbcs... > > >hopefully, nistula dasa > > I know how you feel. It has always been a problem in ISKCON. Too much to do > for too few men (GBC's in this case). This is why the pressure is so > unbearable. The pressure may be unbearable -- but now it's the law: ISKCON law 507. It may be tough, but they will find that Krsna bestows special blessings on those who help protect His cows. In other words, it's a big job -- but there's a big payoff, too. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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