Pennsylvania dairy farm - seeks to donate bull calves

[Guest guest]

>

> > I understand that bull calf possibility is 50 to 60%.

> > The extra bulls, if my farm project goes through with

> > the availability of a partner, donate the bulls to

> > Iskcon farms or nearby sanctuaries as oxen. Sankar

 

There is no place in existence that will take them. New Vrindaban learned

that the hard way. Although at this point, if you were to put $12,000 in a

trust fund which would produce the income to care for the ox, NV would

accept them. So the first $12,000 income from a lactation would be needed

to be set aside. Doing which will make your operation unlikely to support

itself with income from milk sales alone.

[Guest guest]

I beg to defer with you - Amish and Dutch farmers

around here want oxen and are willing to pay a price

for it. Sankar

--- Mark Middle Mountain <gourdmad (AT) ovnet (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> >

> > > I understand that bull calf possibility is 50 to

> 60%.

> > > The extra bulls, if my farm project goes through

> with

> > > the availability of a partner, donate the bulls

> to

> > > Iskcon farms or nearby sanctuaries as oxen.

> Sankar

>

> There is no place in existence that will take them.

> New Vrindaban learned

> that the hard way. Although at this point, if you

> were to put $12,000 in a

> trust fund which would produce the income to care

> for the ox, NV would

> accept them. So the first $12,000 income from a

> lactation would be needed

> to be set aside. Doing which will make your

> operation unlikely to support

> itself with income from milk sales alone.

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I beg to defer with you - Amish and Dutch farmers

around here want oxen for farm work and not slaughter

and are willing to pay a price for it. Sankar

--- Mark Middle Mountain <gourdmad (AT) ovnet (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> >

> > > I understand that bull calf possibility is 50 to

> 60%.

> > > The extra bulls, if my farm project goes through

> with

> > > the availability of a partner, donate the bulls

> to

> > > Iskcon farms or nearby sanctuaries as oxen.

> Sankar

>

> There is no place in existence that will take them.

> New Vrindaban learned

> that the hard way. Although at this point, if you

> were to put $12,000 in a

> trust fund which would produce the income to care

> for the ox, NV would

> accept them. So the first $12,000 income from a

> lactation would be needed

> to be set aside. Doing which will make your

> operation unlikely to support

> itself with income from milk sales alone.

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I am afraid that you are a little naive on the point of traditional

American farming groups. Although I appreciate that working the oxen

gives them a longer life than they normally would have had, in the end

most farmers will slaughter and eat the ox.

 

That is one of their arguments about why oxen are better than horses:

When a horse dies you cannot eat it, but when an ox dies you can.

 

The Dirk van Loon "Family Cow" book is excellent. But I do seem to

remember in one chapter where the ox farmer is reciting all the

advantages of his ox team to a visitor. In concluding his case he gives

a good slap on the rump of one ox and declares, "And there's still a lot

of good steaks in there when it's all over."

 

As for Amish farmers. As you may know, Gita-nagari was an Amish dairy

farm before the devotees bought in in the 1970s. I remember hearing

that the building we used for a garden shed for tools had been a

smokehouse for curing meat under the previous owner. I think that

pretty much describes the situation with regard to cow protection on

Amish farms.

 

You cannot truthfully sell your milk as "Milk from protected cows" as

long as bull calves are going to be transferred to others who will

ultimately slaughter them.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

 

S S wrote:

 

> I beg to defer with you - Amish and Dutch farmers

> around here want oxen and are willing to pay a price

> for it. Sankar

> --- Mark Middle Mountain <gourdmad (AT) ovnet (DOT) com> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > > I understand that bull calf possibility is 50 to

> > 60%.

> > > > The extra bulls, if my farm project goes through

> > with

> > > > the availability of a partner, donate the bulls

> > to

> > > > Iskcon farms or nearby sanctuaries as oxen.

> > Sankar

> >

> > There is no place in existence that will take them.

> > New Vrindaban learned

> > that the hard way. Although at this point, if you

> > were to put $12,000 in a

> > trust fund which would produce the income to care

> > for the ox, NV would

> > accept them. So the first $12,000 income from a

> > lactation would be needed

> > to be set aside. Doing which will make your

> > operation unlikely to support

> > itself with income from milk sales alone.

> >

>

>

>

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S S <sankar1 >

Mark Middle Mountain <gourdmad (AT) ovnet (DOT) com>

Cc: <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Monday, March 18, 2002 6:38 AM

Re: Pennsylvania dairy farm - seeks to donate bull calves

 

 

> I beg to defer with you - Amish and Dutch farmers

> around here want oxen for farm work and not slaughter

> and are willing to pay a price for it. Sankar

 

The milk breeds?

 

And when they are no longer able to work they....?