Guest guest Posted December 11, 1999 Report Share Posted December 11, 1999 Haribol Samba I made some casteroil my self and tried to burn it and had a similar problem. It would smoke a little but not burn. I never pursued the problem. Now don't get all riled up in righteous rage, but I believe that the oil they sell in India that Prabhupada said was the best may not have been the pure oil we are producing. And at the time he lived he had never to my knowledge been a farmer. I think sometimes while Prabhupada is an elevated enlightened being some time, he was talking about things he had heard about but had no actual hands on knowledge. There are materials that burn very well in each area of the world. In the deserts of the American south west it would have to be Joba oil. In the tropics there is the candle nut in the northern. In European countries there is pine oil and so on. What is best for southern India may not be best for southern western deserts. Now if any one can tell us how to make pure caster oil burn brightly I am all ears on the method. I think though we should all be conversant in the local indigenous plants of our own local area. Although caster plants seem to grow world wide from the tropics of Cuba to northern Germany and beyond. I don't think we should cultivate the plant at all, sense it is such a deadly poison! Only the oil pressed from the seed is not poisonous. The entire plant. Leaves, roots, bark and sap all can kill a human. The oil when ingested by humans makes us have diarrhea. It is toxic when burned and an ugly rumor says the decaying plant in water will kill off live stock but I have never found any confirmation that it is fact. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 On 11 Dec 1999, DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: > Now don't get all riled up in righteous rage, but I believe that the oil > they sell in India that Prabhupada said was the best may not have been the Maybe what SP called castor oil is in India something different. > pure oil we are producing. And at the time he lived he had never to my > knowledge been a farmer. I think sometimes while Prabhupada is an elevated > enlightened being some time, he was talking about things he had heard about > but had no actual hands on knowledge. A first-class man learns by hearing. What do these editorial comments have to do with castor oil? Although caster plants seem > to grow world wide from the tropics of Cuba to northern Germany and beyond. > I don't think we should cultivate the plant at all, sense it is such a deadly > poison! Only the oil pressed from the seed is not poisonous. The entire > plant. Leaves, roots, bark and Why is this not mentioned in the many seed catalogs that sell castor seeds? The seeds are always mentioned as toxic, but not the rest of the plant. > The oil when > ingested by humans makes us have diarrhea. Castor oil is, when properly used, a traditional remedy for constipation. It has been used even for children (Fletcher's Castoria). You can take a good thing and use it for evil, though. The Nazis would forcibly pour _quarts_ of castor oil down the throats of Jews, whose bowels would burst as a result, causing death. >It is toxic when burned and an I've never heard of this, what is the source of your infor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 1999 Report Share Posted December 15, 1999 Dipas are usualy small clay shallow bowls with an elongated end, where you normaly lay a twisted cotton wick. Fill the bowl with oil and light the wick, and you have light. Dipas can also be made of brass, a bit like a candelabra, there are many varieties. But I am convinced that the oil lamps, such as hurricane lamps etc, should be able to run from oils, as they were originaly known as oil lamps. So the question is, what oil? Maybe the oils we get now are refined less, or too thick or something, and the lamp oil of old had different qualities. Or maybe as has been suggested we just should be satisfied with dipa lamps. the problem I have with dipas, is that they do not travel well. On a farm there are many reasons to go out at night. Animals often choose the late hours to get ill, or into trouble, rains come when you least expect, and things need to be covered, it goes on, and a reliable outside light is essential. Ys Samba das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 1999 Report Share Posted December 17, 1999 In a message dated 12/15/99 9:00:37 AM US Mountain Standard Time, Samba.SDG (AT) bbt (DOT) se writes: > > Dipas are usually small clay shallow bowls with an elongated end, where you > normally lay a twisted cotton wick. Fill the bowl with oil and light the > wick, and you have light. Dipas can also be made of brass, a bit like a > candelabra, there are many varieties. > > But I am convinced that the oil lamps, such as hurricane lamps etc, should > be able to run from oils, as they were originally known as oil lamps. So the > question is, what oil? Maybe the oils we get now are refined less, or too > thick or something, and the lamp oil of old had different qualities. > > Or maybe as has been suggested we just should be satisfied with Dipa lamps. > the problem I have with Dipas, is that they do not travel well. On a farm > there are many reasons to go out at night. Animals often choose the late > hours to get ill, or into trouble, rains come when you least expect, and > things need to be covered, it goes on, and a reliable outside light is > essential. > > Ys Samba das Samba old boy, ever thought of making a lantern of an old plastic one gallon (four liters) milk or water bottle. Leave the handle on and cut down to about two inches leaving strips to reach the handle If you place a Dipa lamp in the bottom with some sand in the bottom to stabiles the lamp. To get more light place a mirror in the back of the milk jug if the front is cut out it won't starve for oxygen, It will be protected from the elements and is cheap and simple to make Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya! Just a thought - what about candles from beeswax for your emergency night outings? If you put them in a glass sided lantern you get a kind of "hurricane lamp"? What are the various kinds of material one can make candles from? Your servant, Pancaratna das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 > > [Text 2867971 from COM] > > Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya! > > Just a thought - > what about candles from beeswax for your emergency night outings? If you put > them in a glass sided lantern you get a kind of "hurricane lamp"? > > What are the various kinds of material one can make candles from? > > Your servant, > Pancaratna das > > Pancaratna Old boy Depending on your location on this tired old earth there are tons of material to burn from each country. Coconut oil and candle nuts (impale the nuts on a sharp pointy stick or wire and light the top one they burn quite well and brightly, deep fried they taste good, raw they give diarrhea and stomach cramps. Banana oil, jahoba oil, pine sap, pine oil, takes some effort to make it, got to melt lots of trees. Bees wax, most nuts when pressed for their oil make a burnable oil, which will make a good light. Peanut butter oil smells good and if you still have some oil left in the morning you can cook with it. Castor oil, but I have not personally been able to get pure oil from my press to burn, Dvibhuja DAs, said he was able to get it to burn in a Dipa lamp. Any oily fruit or nut can usually burn with some decent light. I liked banana oil nearly burned down the kitchen with that discovery. Corn oil, sun flower oil, My stinky all time favorite is Carbide it stinks! You add water, in a slow drip onto the rocks and it releases acetylene gas, which burns with a stinky, hot, pure blue light and you can use it to wield with. Yes, I know it is a manufactured product and not a real rock at all. But Carbide brings back many fond memories of my misspent youth! The list goes on and on do you want more? Lately I have been eyeing avocado seeds and fruit they are pretty oily hummmmm? When I get some time I will gather up some seeds and see if they burn. Seed that big should be great for something. Carol > > ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 1999 Report Share Posted December 19, 1999 COM: Pancaratna ACBSP wrote: > [Text 2867971 from COM] > > Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya! > > Just a thought - > what about candles from beeswax for your emergency night outings? If you put > them in a glass sided lantern you get a kind of "hurricane lamp"? > > What are the various kinds of material one can make candles from? > > Your servant, > Pancaratna das Bayberry berries, but I think it is an alternative host to wheat rust diesease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 1999 Report Share Posted December 20, 1999 Dear Carol, How do you make candles from oils? Or do you just let the wick float in the oil? Your servant, Pancaratna das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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