Reasons for War

[Guest guest]

Dear Chaya Mata:

 

Pamho. AgtSP.

 

Thank you for the nice quotes. As you say, there are more. Here's some of

them.

 

Ys,

Taraka dasa

 

 

 

To be nonviolent to human beings and to be a killer or enemy of the poor

animals is Satan's philosophy. In this age there is enmity toward poor

animals, and therefore the poor creatures are always anxious. The reaction

of the poor animals is being forced on human society, and therefore there is

always the strain of cold or hot war between men, individually, collectively

or nationally.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 1.10.6

 

 

The materialistic advancement of civilization is called "the civilization of

the demons," which ultimately ends in wars and scarcity. The

transcendentalist is specifically warned herewith to be fixed in mind, so

that even if there is difficulty in plain living and high thinking he will

not budge even an inch from his stark determination.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => SB 2.2.3

 

 

We don't want to stop trade or the production of grains and vegetables and

fruit. But we want to stop these killing houses. It is very, very sinful.

That is why all over the world they have so many wars. Every ten or fifteen

years there is a big war -- a wholesale slaughterhouse for humankind. But

these rascals -- they do not see it, that by the law of karma, every action

must have its reaction.

 

You are killing innocent cows and other animals -- nature will take revenge.

Just wait. As soon as the time is right, nature will gather all these

rascals and slaughter them. Finished. They'll fight amongst themselves --

Protestants and Catholics, Russia and America, this one and that one. It is

going on. Why? That is nature's law. Tit for tat. "You have killed. Now you

kill yourselves."

 

They are sending animals to the slaughterhouse, and now they'll create their

own slaughterhouse. [imitating gunfire:] Tung! Tung! Kill! Kill! You see?

Just take Belfast, for example. The Roman Catholics are killing the

Protestants, and the Protestants are killing the Catholics. This is nature's

law.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => JSD 6.5: Slaughterhouse Civilization

 

 

Prabhupada: [...] But in the western country the cows are specially being

killed. Now the reaction is war, crime, and they are now repentant. And they

will have to repent more and more.

Jayatirtha: So the wars and the crime are a direct result of the cow

slaughter.

Prabhupada: Oh, yes. Oh, yes. It is a wholesale reaction. All these crises

are taking place.[...]

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation with Mr. & Mrs. Wax, Writer and

Editing Manager of Playboy Magazine -- July 5, 1975, Chicago

 

 

> Dear Prabhus,

>

> PAMHO. AGTSP.

>

> I am sure there are more quotes but these two I had put in the ISCOWP News

> two issues ago. I have reading them to devotees when discussing the

> surrent events.

>

> Your servant,

> Chayadevi

> Çrémad-Bhägavatam

>

> SB 8.8.11

> PURPORT:

>

> Unfortunately, because people in Kali-yuga are mandäù, all bad, and

> sumanda-matayaù, misled by false conceptions of life, they are killing

> cows in the thousands. Therefore they are unfortunate in spiritual

> consciousness, and nature disturbs them in so many ways, especially

> through incurable diseases like cancer and through frequent wars and among

> nations. As long as human society continues to allow cows to be regularly

> killed in slaughterhouses, there cannot be any question of peace and

> prosperity.

>

>

>

> Çrémad-Bhägavatam

>

> SB 4.26.5

>

> PURPORT:

>

> In this age of Kali the propensity for mercy is almost nil. Consequently

> there is always fighting and wars between men and nations. Men do not

> understand that because they unrestrictedly kill so many animals, they

> also must be slaughtered like animals in big wars. This is very much

> evident in the Western countries. In the West, slaughterhouses are

> maintained without restriction, and therefore every fifth or tenth year

> there is a big war in which countless people are slaughtered even more

> cruelly than the animals

[Guest guest]

This commentary comes from Tamim, a writer and columnist in San

Francisco, who comes from Afghanistan. This is very, very interesting

and a little chilling....

 

 

I've been hearing a lot of talk about "bombing Afghanistan back to the

Stone Age." Ronn Owens, on KGO Talk Radio today, allowed that this would

mean killing innocent people, people who had nothing to do with this

atrocity, but "we're at war, we have to accept collateral damage. What

else can we do?"

 

Minutes later I heard some TV pundit discussing whether we "have the

belly to do what must be done."

 

And I thought about the issues being raised especially hard because I am

from Afghanistan, and even though I've lived here for 35 years I've never

lost track of what's going on there. So I want to tell anyone who will

listen how it all looks from where I'm standing.

 

I speak as one who hates the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden. There is no

doubt in my mind that these people were responsible for the atrocity in

New York.

 

I agree that something must be done about those monsters. But the

Taliban and Ben Laden are not Afghanistan. They're not even the

government of Afghanistan. The Taliban are a cult of ignorant psychotics

who took over Afghanistan in 1997. Bin Laden is a political criminal

with a plan. When you think Taliban, think Nazis. When you think Bin

Laden, think Hitler. And when you think "the people of Afghanistan"

think "the Jews in the concentration camps."

 

It's not only that the Afghan people had nothing to do with this

atrocity. They were the first victims of the perpetrators. They would

exult if someone would come in there, take out the Taliban and clear out

the rats nest of international thugs holed up in their country.

 

Some say, why don't the Afghans rise up and overthrow the Taliban? The

answer is, they're starved, exhausted, hurt, incapacitated, suffering. A

few years ago, the United Nations estimated that there are 500,000

disabled orphans in Afghanistan--a country with no economy, no food.

There are millions of widows. And the Taliban has been burying these

widows alive in mass graves.

 

The soil is littered with land mines, the farms were all destroyed by the

Soviets. These are a few of the reasons why the Afghan people have not

overthrown the Taliban.

 

We come now to the question of bombing Afghanistan back to the Stone

Age.Trouble is, that's been done. The Soviets took care of it already.

Make the Afghans suffer? They're already suffering. Level their houses?

Done.

 

Turn their schools into piles of rubble? Done. Eradicate their

hospitals? Done.

 

Destroy their infrastructure? Cut them off from medicine and health care?

Too late. Someone already did all that.

 

New bombs would only stir the rubble of earlier bombs. Would they at

least get the Taliban? Not likely. In today's Afghanistan, only the

Taliban eat, only they have the means to move around. They'd slip away

and hide.

 

Maybe the bombs would get some of those disabled orphans, they don't move

too fast, they don't even have wheelchairs. But flying over Kabul and

dropping bombs wouldn't really be a strike against the criminals who did

this horrific thing. Actually it would only be making common cause with

the Taliban--by raping once again the people they've been raping all this

time.

 

So what else is there? What can be done, then? Let me now speak with true

fear and trembling. The only way to get Bin Laden is to go in there with

ground troops. When people speak of "having the belly to do what needs

to be done" they're thinking in terms of having the belly to kill as many

as needed. Having the belly to overcome any moral qualms about killing

innocent people. Let's pull our heads out of the sand. What's actually

on the table is Americans dying. And not just because some Americans

would die fighting their way through Afghanistan to Bin Laden's hideout.

It's much bigger than that folks. Because to get any troops to

Afghanistan, we'd have to go through Pakistan. Would they let us?

 

Not likely. The conquest of Pakistan would have to be first. Will other

Muslim nations just stand by? You see where I'm going. We're flirting

with a world war between Islam and the West.

 

And guess what: that's Bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants.

 

That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all

right there. He really believes Islam would beat the west. It might

seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam

and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the west wreaks a

holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to

lose, that's even better from Bin Laden's point of view. He's probably

wrong, in the end the West would win, whatever that would mean, but the

war would last for years and millions would die, not just theirs but

ours. Who has the belly for that?

 

Bin Laden does. Anyone else?

 

 

Tamim Ansary