Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 Gee, Maharaj, I do enjoy our internet chats. So, in reply, you - > One thing I liked in this letter was your comment > about "congregations". As I consider and tell > others of your model the thing that sticks in the > back of my mind is that although I agree with yoiu > that there are probably enough kind people in the > world who would pay the extra 80% if they knew the > cows were not killed, still I kind of balk at the > idea that they are packed close enough togeth for > practical distribution of fresh milk to them on a > daily basis. > Then this word congregation hit me. > We have a small congregation in San Jose, maybe 60 > active families, but they must be buying quite a lot > of milk. There's good land only 1 hour from the > city, so that means a dairy truck could come daily > or evey two days, with fresh milk for all the > members. They would only need so much milk, then their is dairy produce, and ghee, and finally there is export from the congregation to "others", including restaurants etc. We are also not just looking at milk, but also crops, and ultimately even leather, wool and farm services. My idea is for a transparent stakeholder/consumer farming package, dealing with all the present needs of any developed business - wages, pensions, health and safety, insurance. So, if say 60 families could be found to have an interest then the managers of the package would put forward a proposal. Each family could invest say $5,000. So 60*5000= $300,000 of share capital. On top of that then one could add finance from money-lending institutions to top up to $1,000,000. Obviously the more money secured from stakeholders the less hot money is about. So with that million there is therefore some liquidity to secure land, pay labour and invest in capital, both fixed assets and human skills. Fortunately, the initial stage requires a low capital expenditure on buildings and machinery, that will increase later on as the system goes into its further stages. So, as long as there is sufficient funds to pay for training of the work force then that is the main priority. The idea is to have great transparency, but enough control be the managers to not be debunked when a few things go wrong. The consumer / investors will realise, according to the plan, that their investments will yield their desired goods and services and a return on outlays, but ut is a long term investment of which they must oversee the running of the system and make suggestions & complaints to fine tune it. The whole model is quite complex, but I think it would work. It is different from a straight producer / consumer relationship as the consumers are also the investors and play a part in quality control and management - they are direct stakeholders. The social part here is secondary. Their moving to the farm area is an independant thing. The main thing is to find a way to aqure land and produce in a way that is profitable (meaning not to make a loss, or better). Once atha, economy, is established, that of sustainable production, then other appendages, even of a social grouping can add on. But none of the latter should subsist at the expense of the former. The business must be profitable whilst financial overheads loom. If there are none then subsistence can be sought, but for now that is a long way off. Mark __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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