Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 Dear all, >From Ananda Maya: > The debate is good, but don't lets get lost at this > stage in definitions, atomic > levels of rural technology etc. Let's get the > skeleton of the shape of what > we want, the idea of the content and the possibilty > for implementation. Then > we will put flesh on the bones. Otherwise we will be > three months on > technicalities and have not proceeded beyond the > first step. Firstly, I am very skeptical about what the GBC can actually do, but quite positive about what we can do with a proper plan. So it is the latter that merits serious work and will in no way be complete by the deadline. Wheras the former needs clear identifiable goals that can be achieved and merit the GBC's attention. I certainly think that looking for funding for this project is valid. I also have other ideas that I will present later. Secondly, the structure I have been presenting needs clearing up in all our minds if it is to be accepted. The progressive nature of the plan is in a constant system of observation, analysis and synthesis - leading to more OAS - The synthesis will take the form of management desicions - to leave things as they are, to add, to subtract. The change will then be observed, analysed and synthesised. This will lead to progress. What is being observed? We are observing a system that we have engendered within its boundaries. The resources we have within the systems boundaries = An audit. An audit of environmental, social and economic resources. The interactions between the systems resources, the stores, transfers and flows, plus the external inputs and outputs to the system = An accounting structure. What is the form of analyisis? Observing the present audit and acounting for its movements as a system, envisaging a hypothetical system and analysisng the expected changes to the system. This can take the form in the typical scientific format of hypothesis, method, results and conclusion. Neti neti! What is the form of synthesis? >From the conclusions drawn form analysis then the implimentation of the conclusions need to be made. The conclusion can either be negative, positive, or neither, which would relate to changing by adding or taking away component parts, or leaving the system as it is. >From the above form of progessive framework some points need highlighting. The audit, accounting and analysis framework may not need hyper-detailed data. All of us work in that format in every step of our lives, it is just that we do not segment it and stucture it in a formal construct. So there is a scale of naturalness of observation, analysis and synthesis to hyper-detailed, involving masses of data and statistical correctness. We must be careful to use each appropriately. What are the properties of the audit? If we look at the three properties - environmental, social and economic then there are in total 9 types of relationships they encapsulate. Env: to env, to soc, to econ. Soc: to env, to soc, to econ. Econ: to env, to soc, to econ. On top of this is the holistic one, being the observer. I think one of the points to clarify here is that we really only want to concentrate on one of the above, the first one - environment, land, landscape, Gó, however it is called. Soc realates to varnasramsa and econ to artha, therefore our perogative is Gó - land. Land to land is about the five great elements and senses as I detailed before. By folowing this framework then we are saying by designing a landscape we are forming the system needed to create it. Land to soc is about the people needed to manage the lanscape creation. land to econ is about the resources that man must utilise to create said lanscape. The whole idea is not so crazy as some have said. If we look at the land around us in most of the developed world we see a flat grassland with grazing animals or monocultured crops. Another form could be complete forest as in the Amazon. Neither is the ideal lanscape for human existence. I once showed to Syam the concept that if we took a photograph of our land, as in the former state, and then produced it as a negative then that would approximately aquait to the ideal land - instead of 80% 2 dimensional landscape and 20% 3D with woodland cover it should be 80% 2D and 20% 3D. To manage land in that form would require humans utilising animals either through domestication or contolling wildlife, as to keep the forest from growing it needs the animals to maintain plagio-climax, a humanly constructed landscape = env to soc. The resources man utilises to achieve this form econ = env to econ. It is that simple. Upon this simple framework then all complexities can be added on. I hope I have made the above make sense, for obviously the last time I did not, and whilst we talk of KISS, I think the most important KISS is in the framework of the system that we form. Mark Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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