Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Dear all, I was just wanting to finish presenting a framework analysis. I know the conference is overloaded at the moment, which is in some ways good, but before the farmework I am putting forward is accepted, modified or rejected I would like to finish it. Please forgive my impertinence in presenting such work, as I do refer much to the Vedic framework which I see as Absolute. Whilst I may not follow bhakti so wonderfully I do find myself with an intellectual bent of dhyan, and therefore apprectiate very much the simplicity of structure the Vedas present. What I am trying to show is that by reading the Vedic literature we can get an idea of what is Z - the ultimate goal. So in terms of goal settings there is no need of relative social profiling, or whatever. The Absolute has been induced into us, it does not have to be deduced. The inductive process through guru paramparah has shown us the way, we need to formulate a development process that takes us there. This is why I see the main skeleton of the plan as forming a 3D landscape, the formation of Gó, eden, the land of milk and honey. To start with the needs of the land as shown in our literature and shape the social and economic phantasmagoria to come into line with the landscape goal. A main problem will be in the social and economic aspects of how to upgrade social and economic capital to 'secure a living lanscape fulfilling quality of life aspirations'. (this phrase could be in the Vision instead of land tenure security.) I like to use the analogy that Z is like a straight piece of rope, Y is the first knot, X the second, until all the way to A when the rope is just one big knot. All these knots are the phantasmagoria that Prabhupada eludes too. He gave us the methods of Hari Nam Kirtinam to get us into the consciousness for our knots to be unravelled and to return to Krsna consciousness, some follow others don't. Half of the being of Krsna could be seen as the simple living part, living a simple life in a living landscape - that is the material part - Krsi. The second part is the spiritual part of the understanding and appreciation of life, the life giver and the life giver in person and His activities. So if we can shape the material part in the image of Góloka, as given in the scriptures, then we are half way there. This shaping could be called 'creating a living landscape', with the ultimate goal labelled as Z. Here Living landscape eludes to Land, Gó, environment, to the fauna and flora, and in humanity to the Social life with quality of life aspirations, as káma kanda and varnasrama; and creating refers to economics - the production of... So, to finish, it is possible to create a simple framework using the Vedic literature to deliantate the goal, Z, within the three categories of environment, society and economy. Env would be the state of the 5 elements and their forming senses. Soc would be the need for adequate diet, housing, family, protection of the latter, and education in the former matters and in spiritual matters. Econ would refer to how the living human being exploits the material nature to attain to all the latter. (See Bhagavad Gita chapter 2) Seen in the above Absolute simplicity of the goal, Z, then it is obvious that the comlications that arise in 'A; downwards are the phantasmagoria of our conditioned state. They become limiting factors to achieve the simple land-based goals. The development process would therefore be to analyse these limiting factors and to find ways to remove them for progress to be made. This is where the scientific analyses are made. The resulting sysntheses, the management implimentation tools, therefore will vary but the goal will be the same. I hope to those who read this I have cleared up my perspective. I find it echoes what I have read of Prabhupada and the Vedas; it allows a highly modern development plan to be formulated; it could achieve grass-roots comprehension and appreciation; it could allow funding to be attained from private, charitable and government sources; and at the end of the day if the land conditions can be created and social phantasmagoria appeased and removed, then we could one day realise Prabhupada's vision of simple living, high thinking. Mark Make a great connection at Personals. http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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