Guest guest Posted November 10, 2001 Report Share Posted November 10, 2001 What is realistic is defined by what is attainable in this situation, the closer to GBC realities the more likely to have some funding rather than none. Mark > $25,000 is realistic in my mind to have an > operational Ministry. In this > context it doesn't seem so. What this Miniistry > needs and waht another needs > could vary greatly. Please give suggestions as to > what to do next. At this > point I have receved the advice to gvie at least 4 > or 5 categories to the home > office and the representatives, which I can do. My > question; is $25,000 > unrealistic in these circunstances? > > Your servant, > Chayadevi > > > > Find a job, post your resume. http://careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 .. My question; is $25,000 >unrealistic in these circunstances? The point is, you have to show how much you need to achive your goals. So if that is the case, it is realistic- based on the reality of what your ministry requires to function properly. I don't see any point in pretending that you need less, for fear it may be a case of all or nothing. Certainly if the ministry requires $25,000 and the GBC won't even give them $2,000, which is barely a token, then it looks pretty bad for them. Really really bad. But if you say that $2,000 is ample, then they may just say "raise it yourself, if that's all you need" What you could do, is state that $25,000 would be the amount to achieve all your goals, $20,000 would achieve these ones; $15,000, these ones, all the way down to $2,000. In other words, what would the GBC like us to achieve? What level of cow protection are they willing to commit to? I don't think that they are so broke as they would have you believe. Aren't they allocating funds for MAyapur? Or is that not funded by the GBC? YS, Niscala _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya! > I don't think that they are so broke as they would have you believe. > Aren't they allocating funds for MAyapur? Or is that not funded by the > GBC? YOu are speaking of BBT funds. THe system is that the GBC are supposed to allocate BBT contributions for international construction projects. At present the only projects that are recognized as official international projects are Mayapur Vrindavan and Puri, which were designated as such by Srila Prabhupada. THe funds are restricted for building construction only, though in the case of Mayapur funds have been allocated for the master plan design and ancillary work like fund-raising. The GBC is not at liberty to use BBT contributions to this fund for purposes other than building construction or related work. Also the Intl BBT trustees must approve in principle. There is a lot of pressure to begin allocating BBT contributions for projects outside of India. Of course, the Mayapur Project team is objecting. We say that Srila Prabhupada specifically wanted the BBT to contribute for Mayapur, once Bombay and Vrindavan were complete. IN any case, these funds can not be allocated for ministry running expenses. If there were a building project, like building a college for training in agriculture and cow protection, I would say it could theoretically be considered. I am pushing for such projects to be funded in the Mayapur project on equal priority, if not higher priority than the temple construction. This is likely to be a hot topic in the GBC this year. The German devotees are practically demanding that their local BBT help in rescuing Abentheur property from being sold. Your servant, Pancaratna das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 > I suggest breaking down into essential, desireable, ideal. If somehow, they > come up with some special funding from somewhere then the ideal budget is > there. But most likely, all you can reasonably expect is about $5000, I'ld > say. > > Your servant, > Pancaratna das Niscala prabhu also recommended breaking it down like this also so that is waht I will do along with about 4 or 5 breakdowns in the 3 categories. Then I will present it to the conference. From waht Ramai Swami said it seems I need not get a GBC sponsor since I am only presenting it to the GBC deputy chairman and GBC treasurer and the December 1 deadline does not apply? Your servant, Chayadevi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 I like this concept, similar to Pancaratna prabhu's. Thank you. Espescially what would the GBC like us to achieve-it puts it nore on their shoulders rather than ours. The feeling that we have to do it all with no GBC help and we are responsibile for everything even though there is no funds is hard to deal with. > What you could do, is state that $25,000 would be the amount to achieve all > your goals, $20,000 would achieve these ones; $15,000, these ones, all the > way down to $2,000. In other words, what would the GBC like us to achieve? > What level of cow protection are they willing to commit to? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2001 Report Share Posted November 11, 2001 > THe system is that the GBC are supposed to allocate BBT contributions for > international construction projects. At present the only projects that are > recognized as official international projects are Mayapur Vrindavan and > Puri, which were designated as such by Srila Prabhupada. Actually New Vrindaban was designated such a project by Srila Prabhupada, but petty internal politics effectively vetoed that designation. Despite the rosy revisionism of many, ISKCON was a bickering fracticious organization even while he was on the planet. He was able to, by dint of his strong personality, somehow or other able to keep it moving forward, but it had plenty of problems even then. > IN any case, these funds can not be allocated for ministry running expenses. > If there were a building project, like building a college for training in > agriculture and cow protection, I would say it could theoretically be > considered. I am pushing for such projects to be funded in the Mayapur > project on equal priority, if not higher priority than the temple > construction. You are doing what Srila Prabhupada would have done, IMHO. Until cow protection is truly implemented in Mayapur, the project will flounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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