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markjon chatburn wrote:

 

> The maths of Bos indicus certainly mean weaker

> ficances from milk and more emphasis on the absolute

> need to make ox/crops the main economic push. With Bos

> Taurus it would be easier to go dairy, but here the

> imperative is on forcing the ox/crop compartment to

> find economic value.

 

Just to clarify, I think Niscala's point is important. In general, even

when we are speaking of increased milk production per bull calf produced

-- I think it is still best to use Indic breeds rather than Taurean for

the Indian subcontinent. By nature's arrangements, the Indic breeds are

best suited to the climate and other environmental features, such as

insects. It seems more ecologically sound to concentrate on the Indic

breeds -- but with improvements in other areas -- such as pasture

management.

 

On a related note, I've always thought that it demonstrated the wrong

focus to have a deer park in the middle of the Mayapur campus -- while

the cows are so short on grazing space.

 

It seems to me that as followers of Lord Govinda, it would be more

appropriate for us to have cows in that space -- on a rotational grazing

system, dividing the strip into paddock and exhibiting beautiful cows --

cows that are so healthy that they would seem like exotic animals

compared with the local scrawny animals to be found in the area. When I

think of Prabhupada's quote that our farms in India should be ideal, I

think what a sensation that would create if ISKCON's cows in India

appeared markedly healthier than other local cows -- our cows should look

like cows that Krsna would play with.

 

Anyway, I'm going off on a tangent. My main point here is that I agree

with Niscala's point that it's generally best to use Indic breeds in

India -- but of the Indic breeds we should select the best, and of those,

they should be so well cared for that their milk capacity is considerably

more than usual.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

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Dear Hare Krsna dasi,

 

I totally agree with Bos Indicus in tropical climes.

Crosses of Bos Taurus and Indicus do exist, and still,

it would always be thorough to study this. But on the

whole I find it proper to look for exceptional local

or regional breeds. I certainly don't think you are on

a tangent when talking of the cows in Mayapur. It is

criminal, for ISKCON, to treat the animals the way

they do. And the converse of the cows in their full

splendor as you talk about is the exact thing we

should be doing. It is certainly how I imagined it

when I first became a 'devotee'. The lack of it has

never let me back to the temples freely. It is an

hypocrisy that we need to remove.

 

Now, the question of which we need an answer to is

HOW?

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

--- "Noma T. Petroff" <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu> wrote:

> markjon chatburn wrote:

>

> > The maths of Bos indicus certainly mean weaker

> > ficances from milk and more emphasis on the

> absolute

> > need to make ox/crops the main economic push. With

> Bos

> > Taurus it would be easier to go dairy, but here

> the

> > imperative is on forcing the ox/crop compartment

> to

> > find economic value.

>

> Just to clarify, I think Niscala's point is

> important. In general, even

> when we are speaking of increased milk production

> per bull calf produced

> -- I think it is still best to use Indic breeds

> rather than Taurean for

> the Indian subcontinent. By nature's arrangements,

> the Indic breeds are

> best suited to the climate and other environmental

> features, such as

> insects. It seems more ecologically sound to

> concentrate on the Indic

> breeds -- but with improvements in other areas --

> such as pasture

> management.

>

> On a related note, I've always thought that it

> demonstrated the wrong

> focus to have a deer park in the middle of the

> Mayapur campus -- while

> the cows are so short on grazing space.

>

> It seems to me that as followers of Lord Govinda, it

> would be more

> appropriate for us to have cows in that space -- on

> a rotational grazing

> system, dividing the strip into paddock and

> exhibiting beautiful cows --

> cows that are so healthy that they would seem like

> exotic animals

> compared with the local scrawny animals to be found

> in the area. When I

> think of Prabhupada's quote that our farms in India

> should be ideal, I

> think what a sensation that would create if ISKCON's

> cows in India

> appeared markedly healthier than other local cows --

> our cows should look

> like cows that Krsna would play with.

>

> Anyway, I'm going off on a tangent. My main point

> here is that I agree

> with Niscala's point that it's generally best to use

> Indic breeds in

> India -- but of the Indic breeds we should select

> the best, and of those,

> they should be so well cared for that their milk

> capacity is considerably

> more than usual.

>

> your servant,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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