Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 My son Ashto did type up the copy from the Gita-nagari Ox Power Unit. I have formatted it and translated it into an Adobe .pdf file. I need to make just a couple corrections and it will be ready. I plan to show it to Fernando Funes, the secretary for the Cuban Organic Farming Association when he comes in February as part of the Brunswick-Trinidad [Trinidad, Cuba, that is] Sister Cities Association. As most of you know, by the late 1980's Cuba had the most highly industrialized agriculture in Latin America, but with the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989, all that stopped practically overnight. Just to survive, Cuba had to train several hundred thousand oxen for agricultural production. Anyway, I've seen the Food First video by Jaime Kibben, "The Greening of Cuba" which describes Cuba's transition from Chemical/Industrial Agriculture to Sustainable Organic Agriculture, and it's fairly impressive to think of a whole country making such a quick turn around like that. Sad to say, I believe that millions in the U.S. would have to starve to death before we made a turnaround like that -- if we ever ran out of petroleum. But, on the other hand, I believe that ox power equipment, ox power technology, and ox power working and training techniques could all be developed further in Cuba. We have something to learn from them -- but also we could have something to offer them, too. I also want to post it on Christian Schlekert's Animal Traction Network. The way I picture it is that ideally, they could try to learn some things from devotee farmers -- and ultimately this would open the way for Krsna consciousness to expand in Cuba. That was the one thing missing in the film -- the Higher Taste. They are trying to promote the glories of hard working farmers and simple living -- but without high thinking, without Krsna kirtana -- it misses its mark, it's tasteless. But, anyway, I do see some possibilities for exchange. And back to the topic at hand: I should have the Ox Power Unit booklet available soon -- I'm just hoping to get a better photo from Paramananda. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi - "Noma T. Petroff" <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu> "New Talavan" <talavan (AT) fnbop (DOT) com>; "Cow (Protection and related issues)" <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:43 AM Gita-nagari's Ox-Power Unit - 1987 > New Talavan wrote: > > > - > > Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK) <Syamasundara (AT) pamho (DOT) net> > > mark chatburn <markjon11 >; New Talavan <talavan (AT) fnbop (DOT) com>; > > Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> > > Tuesday, March 27, 2001 3:34 PM > > Protection Farms - modeling a better system than the slaughter of > > billions of animals. > > > > Comment: > > Do you have plans that you could send of an ox-powered grain mill or contact > > with someone that does? > > > > Taraka Prabhu does someone in Gita Nagari still have the plans for the > > ox-powered sawmill? > > Rohita Prabhu, under Paramananda's supervision in 1987, I put together a 25 > page booklet on Gita-nagari's ox-powered saw mill, complete with 20 pen and ink > drawings by Sarva-Siddhi Ratha. I still have a few copies. > > Most unfortunately, that was all back in typewriter days -- so I can't download > it to this conference. Maybe that could be a project for me -- to re-type it > to > disk, and to scan the drawings. Come to think of it -- maybe I could get my > son Ashto to do it for a "community service" project which he needs to complete > before he can graduate from high school. > > Possibly we could post it on the ISCOWP website in the Resource section. Chaya > and Balabhadra Prabhus -- do you think that would be a possibility? > > Another note on this whole topic is that in the early 1990's, Lagudi and Acarya > (?) prabhus put together their own version for Australia's New Govardhan Farm. > I believe they had it set up for irrigation. In the historical American > versions of an ox-power or horse-power sweep unit, one person stands in the > center and prompts the draft animals with a stick or lash, since they are all > trained by voice command. This was the plan used at Gita-nagari, since they > were > modeling their unit after an Amish horse power unit in Kentucky. > Unfortunately > for the Australian version, Lagudi's animals were not trained with voice > command, they just had nose rings. Therefore, in addition to pulling the > sweep, > the oxen also had to pull a little cart with the ox driver in it, so he could > guide them by pulling the reins to their noses. In the photos, it looked > somewhat awkward. > > I heard that people thought that Gita-nagari's gearing system could have been > improved -- but at least if we could put the plans on the ISCOWP website, > animal > traction technicians could begin to suggest improvements. Probably we could > get > a lot of feedback from the members of Christian Schlekert's Animal Traction > Network. > > your servant, > > Hare Krsna dasi > > > > > > > > Does anyone have plans for a gear system that could operate a water well? > > > > One devotee here tells me that in rural Brazil they have ox-powered baler > > and hayforks for the big round bales of hay (15,000 pound). > > -- > Noma Petroff > Academic Department Coordinator > BOWDOIN COLLEGE > Department of Theater & Dance > 9100 College Station > Brunswick ME 04011-8491 > > Phone: (207) 725-3663 > FAX: (207) 725-3372 > e-mail: npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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