Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 I differ with the point put forth by Samba that rules are a botheration. The vedic culture is based on rules. Every civilization is based on rules. Varnasrama is based on rules. Srila Prabhupada started our movement with rules. Without rules or laws there is chaos. It is common sence. To say that being expected to follow rules is unrealistic because basically rules are a botheration is "ruling" for an animal society (and I don't mean cows). To say that the cow standards are only rules and therefore a botheration and no wonder that they are not being followed is a shortsighted illogical statement. In some cases rules can be adjusted as times change, etc. But essentially rules are essential to life above the animal level. The standards give an outline of the dos and don'ts of cow protection as briefly as possible. It is a brief education . In this format the beginning of education can be absorbed without too much effort. Now there is a reference quide for the standards. It can be read at www.iscowp.org by clcking the resource button. There are many pages of resource books that can be acquired (and where to acquire them) for the more detailed education of the standards if someone has the desire to know more. This listing is published in the Ministry's book Cow Protection, Book 1. The book that Hrimati has asked about is in that lisiting. The resource quide can be expanded and updated. It was first written in late 2002. It would be nice to hear how the cow protection program is doing there in Spain. The standards and cow report are now in Spanish and can be acquired on www.iscowp.org by clcking the standards button. Visit us at: www.iscowp.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Samba (das) SDG wrote: >> I differ with the point put forth by Samba that rules are a botheration. >> >> > >Somehow it seems that a lot of people seem to think that the cow standards >are a botheration, otherwise why would there be such a dismal response to >them? But I take your point, I was not clear enough and in principal you are >of course right. > Actually, maybe we should have the humility to take a hint from this. We worked very, very hard to formulate all the different points, but maybe by diligent editorial work, they could be arranged in a way that is clearer and easier to understand. It would probably be a big project, unfortunately. >>The standards give an outline of the dos and don'ts of cow protection as >>briefly as possible. It is a brief education . In this format the >>beginning of education can be absorbed without too much effort. >> >> > >The standards that were produced by the members of this conference are >invaluable and well presented. I was simply noting that despite that there >is a very dissapointing lack of response or apparent adherence. It is this >that I am trying to address, why that is, and what can be done about it. > > On one hand, we could probably clarify the presentation a little more, but on the other hand some places (only a few, I hope) are determined to breed cows to produce enough milk for hundreds of people -- giving little attention to the idea of training the oxen -- thus the lives of the bull calves are always in a precarious even dangerous situation. So while we could improve the style, I'm afraid that basic laziness and ignorance on the part of some of the GBC members is also a factor in their not being followed. If the GBC really accepted them, I'm sure they would make the effort to see that at least the basics -- such as not overbreeding -- were followed. They certainly do this with Deity standards. It's largely a matter of where they put their enthusiasm. Whatever they demonstrate, the common devotee will follow. ys hkdd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 > > So reclassify Cow Protection Standards as education rather than rules, > > because de facto that is what they are. Now is everybody happy? > > You can re-classify them, but I dont think there will suddenly be a rush to > read them afresh and implement them. As long as there is no enforcement the > best we can expect is for the most sincere ones to read them. Those who just > want profit will do what they will do anyway. > Make up your mind and stick to one position please. You object to rules and push for education, so I agree and say let's educate and you say it won't work because it lacks the force of rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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