Cow dung-urine medicine - effective against e-coli risk?

[Guest guest]

One thing I have been wondering is: in North America, how does the

arrival of e-coli bacteria impact the benefits of a formula like this?

 

Everyone knows that a number of people have been killed from e-coli

contamination, especially from manure mixed with meat. I was just

wondering, have any of our many scientific devotees done any controlled

tests which would show that this particular mixture can indeed kill the

e-coli germs?

 

If not, possibly this formula was more effective in Vedic times. Or

possibly it's more effective in India if they don't have an e-coli

problem there.

 

Either way, it seems that some controlled scientific tests are really

needed before we promote something like this. Otherwise, it seems like

we are taking a gamble. Won't we run the risk of ending up looking like

real cult members if we promote cures like this -- and then someone dies

from using them -- simply because we didn't test their effectiveness on

a new pathogen that was not part of the Vedic environment?

 

Anyway, I'm just wondering if anyone has done research on this since Dr.

Goshal's experiments in the 1940's.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

 

ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA) wrote:

 

>

>

>-

>Bhattathiri

>iscowp (AT) earthlink (DOT) net

>1/5/2004 8:09:12 AM

>URINE AND DUNG OF COW IS MEDICINE

>

>

>Cow urine and Dung - Panchgavya

>COW is cosidred as a holy animal in Hinduism. Not only it gives milk its

>various products are useful as medicne also.A mixture of two volumes of ghee,

>five volumes each of curd and milk,of urine and 48 of dung, two per cent of

>common salt and 0.01 % of baker's yeast - was found to be the most effective

>and economical, to suppress pathogen

>MPG-3 was superior to carbendazim in reducing the plant disease index, and

>increasing the vigour of plant and yield. (Down to Earth - 30.9.1996)

>Panchgavya - as Medicine if taken daily in small quantity body resistance is

>developed

>Urine 40 gm

>Kushodak - 30 gm

>Dung 80 gm

>Milk 60 gm

>Curd 50 gm

>Ghee 40 gm

>

>(Kalyan Goank P-81- 1945 issue)

>Urine - Biopesticides

>In 10 litres of cattle urine, about 2kg of Neem Leaves are soaked with some

>other vegetable matter and can be used in proportion of 1:50 for spraying

>Urine - Ayurvedic Medicines : Most of medicines are made by distilling urine

>and collecting vapours. The ark is useful for many diseases

>By boiling urine in open pan the residual solid matter is made into small

balls

>and used for many ailments.

>Urine as such and or mixed with honey, salt is also administered for Liver and

>other problems

>Urine for Power

>Small power has been generated to run electronic clock and efforts are on to

>light torch light bulb

>When this becomes successful, each house in rural and urban area having no

>electricity can have light without any recurring cost

>It is now a challenge to our scientific community to develop systems

>BENEFITS

>Improves soil structure, health, productivity which has been degrading

>Improve moisture retention capacity of soil and check soil erosion

>Converting menace of weed into productive virtous material for soil

improvement

>and avoid use of weedicides

>Provide food and fodder free from pesticides and other chemical residues

>Reduce consumption of fossil fuels and non-renewable energy inputs

>Let up all homes at no recurring costs.

>Improve financial condition of farmer and landless labour

>Job opportunity for artisans and unskilled persons with least capital

>investment with high value added products.

>Disclaimer. Pl. always consult a doctor before using this.

>

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>To from this mailing list, send an email to:

>Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net

>

>

[Guest guest]

There doesnt seem to be an E coli problem in India yet. I believe only the

dung and urine etc of Indian desi cows should be used for pancagavya as

their urine milk etc contain enzymes not found in the western breed's

urine etc.I have read that microbiologidsts agree that E coli is a

harmless organism and found in normal healthy intestinal tract and non

pathogenic.They say if the mucosa becomes affected by changes in the host

then the E coli may become pathogenic ie, E coli is not the primary cause

of the disease which originates in changes in the host. It seems E coli

disease comes from manure mixed up with meat. America is very hysterical

and paranoid about germs and there is not good scientific

understanding. Better not produce pancagavya there. In this booklet T.

Narayan says he has succesfully treated AIDS patients with pancagavya,

that although their blood still showed Hiv positive all their symptoms

of disease went away because their immune system became strong.

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Noma Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu>

Cc: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:25 PM

Cow dung-urine medicine - effective against e-coli risk?

 

 

> One thing I have been wondering is: in North America, how does the

> arrival of e-coli bacteria impact the benefits of a formula like this?

>

> Everyone knows that a number of people have been killed from e-coli

> contamination, especially from manure mixed with meat. I was just

> wondering, have any of our many scientific devotees done any controlled

> tests which would show that this particular mixture can indeed kill the

> e-coli germs?

>

> If not, possibly this formula was more effective in Vedic times. Or

> possibly it's more effective in India if they don't have an e-coli

> problem there.

>

> Either way, it seems that some controlled scientific tests are really

> needed before we promote something like this. Otherwise, it seems like

> we are taking a gamble. Won't we run the risk of ending up looking like

> real cult members if we promote cures like this -- and then someone dies

> from using them -- simply because we didn't test their effectiveness on

> a new pathogen that was not part of the Vedic environment?

>

> Anyway, I'm just wondering if anyone has done research on this since Dr.

> Goshal's experiments in the 1940's.

>

> your servant,

>

> Hare Krsna dasi

>

> ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA) wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >-

> >Bhattathiri

> >iscowp (AT) earthlink (DOT) net

> >1/5/2004 8:09:12 AM

> >URINE AND DUNG OF COW IS MEDICINE

> >

> >

> >Cow urine and Dung - Panchgavya

> >COW is cosidred as a holy animal in Hinduism. Not only it gives milk its

> >various products are useful as medicne also.A mixture of two volumes of

ghee,

> >five volumes each of curd and milk,of urine and 48 of dung, two per cent

of

> >common salt and 0.01 % of baker's yeast - was found to be the most

effective

> >and economical, to suppress pathogen

> >MPG-3 was superior to carbendazim in reducing the plant disease index,

and

> >increasing the vigour of plant and yield. (Down to Earth - 30.9.1996)

> >Panchgavya - as Medicine if taken daily in small quantity body resistance

is

> >developed

> >Urine 40 gm

> >Kushodak - 30 gm

> >Dung 80 gm

> >Milk 60 gm

> >Curd 50 gm

> >Ghee 40 gm

> >

> >(Kalyan Goank P-81- 1945 issue)

> >Urine - Biopesticides

> >In 10 litres of cattle urine, about 2kg of Neem Leaves are soaked with

some

> >other vegetable matter and can be used in proportion of 1:50 for spraying

> >Urine - Ayurvedic Medicines : Most of medicines are made by distilling

urine

> >and collecting vapours. The ark is useful for many diseases

> >By boiling urine in open pan the residual solid matter is made into small

> balls

> >and used for many ailments.

> >Urine as such and or mixed with honey, salt is also administered for

Liver and

> >other problems

> >Urine for Power

> >Small power has been generated to run electronic clock and efforts are on

to

> >light torch light bulb

> >When this becomes successful, each house in rural and urban area having

no

> >electricity can have light without any recurring cost

> >It is now a challenge to our scientific community to develop systems

> >BENEFITS

> >Improves soil structure, health, productivity which has been degrading

> >Improve moisture retention capacity of soil and check soil erosion

> >Converting menace of weed into productive virtous material for soil

> improvement

> >and avoid use of weedicides

> >Provide food and fodder free from pesticides and other chemical residues

> >Reduce consumption of fossil fuels and non-renewable energy inputs

> >Let up all homes at no recurring costs.

> >Improve financial condition of farmer and landless labour

> >Job opportunity for artisans and unskilled persons with least capital

> >investment with high value added products.

> >Disclaimer. Pl. always consult a doctor before using this.

> >

> >-----------------------

> >To from this mailing list, send an email to:

> >Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net

> >

> >

>

>

>

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> To from this mailing list, send an email to:

> Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net