Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hare Krishna everyone. I just received this very nice reply from Padayatra America. I had written them regarding their use of horses instead of oxen. Interestingly, the prabhu doesn't even mention laws or diseases, but explains many other practical reasons, as to the reasoning behind the decision to use horses. ------------------------------ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <padayatra (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> Received: from rly-xk02.mx.aol.com (rly-xk02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.39]) by air-xk01.mail.aol.com (v97.18) with ESMTP id MAILINXK12-57f401e8cd019a; Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:46:40 -0500 Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by rly-xk02.mx.aol.com (v97.10) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXK27-57f401e8cd019a; Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:46:15 -0500 Received: from huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.220]) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1Ani8j-0001PJ-00 for kalavatidevi108 (AT) aol (DOT) com; Mon, 02 Feb 2004 09:45:41 -0800 Message-ID: <19333578.1075743941438.JavaMail.root (AT) huey (DOT) psp.pas.earthlink.net> Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:45:29 -0500 (GMT-05:00) gauranga <padayatra (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> gauranga <padayatra (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> kalavatidevi108 (AT) aol (DOT) com Padayatra america Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-AOL-IP: 207.217.120.46 dEAR kalavati devi matalli Please accept my humble obeisances all glories to SRila Prabhupada yes, the local padaytars are doing very nice SRi SRi Nitai gourasundar-Lord Nrshimhadev are inspiring so many devotes every week [between 80 to 100]; we will be in alachua till march then if Their Lordship bless us continuo towar New talavama - Mexico. why horses insted of oxens; there is few reason, after doing reserch in UNiversities , talking with devortes,padayatras lideres fron previous experiences , and expet in the mater, we come to the conclution that oxen- american breeds are not good for work in tropical-hot weather as will be most of the time where Padayatra will be[south usa , mexico centro and south of america]; the only breed that can tolerate higth temperatures is braman[from india] thier constitution is cientificatly diferent that all other breeds, for exemplo they can perspirate by the skin as horses do , the rest of breed only perspirate by the tongh-MOUTH wich don't allow them to recuperate as quick in hot wether; so here in America was not posible to find bramans with training [ our priority is to go out to preach insted of spend 3 years training and oxen] ; in the other hand horses can tolerate much better higth temperatures ; another reason is the shooing[put shoes in their feets] of the oxens is very dificult because the oxen can not stand in 3 legs therefore you need to trow them to the floor which meens a lot o dificulties, also the oxen have a very thin hoof-wall in comparation whit horses meening that thier hoof-wall will be quicker deteriorate in a hard surface work[as we do 15 to 20 miles a day]; devotes of previous experience in USa and south America have a lot of bad experience with this two point[hot wheater and shoes].; in the other hand horses if you teach them to trust you they will stand in three legs[oxens NEVER will do this] for long time meaning you do the job in a smooth way ; so after 1200 miles -1950 km we have not doubt that this was and exelent desition, Their Lordship choose Kana- Balaji Das[devotes-horses] to do this novel service ;this team of hhorse-devotes, have been working every day in temperatures betwen 35 F till 110 F with out problem , their hoof are very good and their disposition to travel is greet!! they LOve to serve This Sankirtan Mission!!! the more important reason for this success .. senior Vaisnavas blees us!! meaning that the LOrd; Si Sri Nitay Gourasundar and Lrd Nrshimha chosse them to do this service. please keep us in your prayers!! your servant in Prabhupada's padayatra Avadhuta Siromani d HARE KRSNA PS/ IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE ..PLEASE WRITE TO US!1 i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 ------------------------------ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-path: <Dasgopal (AT) aol (DOT) com> Dasgopal (AT) aol (DOT) com Full-name: Dasgopal Message-ID: <45.45c7cda.2d517955 (AT) aol (DOT) com> Tue, 3 Feb 2004 17:23:17 EST Re: Padayatra america npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1075846997" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5007 -------------------------------1075846997 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm ... didn't think of it that way... Gopal ------------------- In a message dated 2/3/2004 9:00:41 AM Central Standard Time, npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu writes: Mark Middle Mountain wrote: >If they had really done their research, they might have gotten mules instead >of horses. > > Whoo-eee! I'm just reading the part in the Ramayana where Bharata is about to be summoned back to Ayodha to oversee the funeral of his father, King Dasaratha. He has not yet received any word that his father has died. But he is very worried because he had a dream about his father being pulled on a cart drawn by donkeys. He states that everyone knows that a dream like that means the person you are dreaming about is going to die. (Of course I didn't know it.) I guess it's considered very inauspicious -- which no doubt is why Ravana drives a chariot drawns by donkeys. However, in the real world, donkeys are really not necessarily inauspicious. Even in Krsna's pastimes they are mentioned. However, it doesn't seem like having the Deities cart drawn by donkeys or mules would go over too well when he passes through various areas which have more of a Hindu concentration. I imagine that the horses are more acceptable. ys hkdd > > -------------------------------1075846997 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD> <META charset=3DUTF-8 http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charse= t=3Dutf-8"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2737.800" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fffff= f"> <DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#010101 size=3D4>Hmm ... didn't think of it that way...</= FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#010101 size=3D4>Gopal</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#010101 size=3D4>-------------------</FONT></DIV> <DIV>In a message dated 2/3/2004 9:00:41 AM Central Standard Time, npetroff@= bowdoin.edu writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue=20= 2px solid"><FONT face=3DArial>Mark Middle Mountain wrote:<BR><BR>>If they= had really done their research, they might have gotten mules instead<BR>>= ;of horses.<BR>> <BR>><BR><BR>Whoo-eee! I'm just reading t= he part in the Ramayana where Bharata is <BR>about to be summoned back to Ay= odha to oversee the funeral of his <BR>father, King Dasaratha. He has=20= not yet received any word that his <BR>father has died. But he is very= worried because he had a dream about <BR>his father being pulled on a cart=20= drawn by donkeys. He states that <BR>everyone knows that a dream like=20= that means the person you are dreaming <BR>about is going to die. (Of course= I didn't know it.) I guess it's <BR>considered very inauspicious -- w= hich no doubt is why Ravana drives a <BR>chariot drawns by donkeys.<BR><BR>H= owever, in the real world, donkeys are really not necessarily <BR>inauspicio= us. Even in Krsna's pastimes they are mentioned. However, it <BR= >doesn't seem like having the Deities cart drawn by donkeys or mules <BR>wou= ld go over too well when he passes through various areas which have <BR>more= of a Hindu concentration. I imagine that the horses are more <BR>acce= ptable.<BR><BR>ys<BR>hkdd<BR><BR>> <BR>></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DI= V> <DIV><FONT color=3D#010101 size=3D4></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1075846997-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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