(no subject)

[Guest guest]

Thankyou for telling us about Iowa.It sounds like an ideal place for

devotees to settle and farm. Gopal Das article is very inspring. ys

labangalatika

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<Kalavatidevi108 (AT) aol (DOT) com>

> --------

>

> Just to clarify - in my mind at least - what Gopal (my husband) said about

> Iowa:

>

> Iowa is a very nice, beautiful place with a lot of preaching and

agricultural

> opportunities. We have neither enough time - with work and taking care of

> our family situation - nor money/land to do sustainable preaching or

> sustainable

> cow protection. If their was a million dollars and 20 adult devotees plus

> kids, it'd be just as blissful and potential as anywhere. The soil is

black

> and

> rich, the seasons are perfect. The state is an agricultural state with

> plenty of space, cows to be saved, people to be saved. There is a colony

of

> Amish

> communities and Fairfield - the town that teaches meditation, Sanskrit,

etc to

> it's kids. We actually moved here to try to open a preaching center -

after

> feeling that we weren't going to be able to "do cows" in Alachua any time

> soon. We have found out that it is harder than we thought it would be to

get a

>

> center started. Anyway, that's my 2 cents about Iowa. I'm sure Gopal

will

> laugh at me when he gets home from work.

>

>

> Hare Krishna.

> Your servant, Kalavati devi dasi

>

>

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> To from this mailing list, send an email to:

> Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna.

 

I have some questions about the new Manor project described in Hari Kirtan

Prabhu's letter.

 

- Is a devotee actually not *allowed* to stay on the property unless he is

perfectly brahminical or is it that a devotee *wouldn't want to* unless

he/she's

not perfectly "brahminical" (extremely renounced). Is the original statement

referring to the non-existence of a living situation, the attitude of the

cowherd, or the attitude of the project manager? I apologize for not

understanding which you were referring to.

 

- Are the two devotees who live in the barn doing so because there is nowhere

else to live, they can't afford to live somewhere else, the project doesn't

allow them money to live somewhere else, or because they choose to live there

and the project manager doesn't have a problem with it?

 

 

 

The following are just a few thoughts from an inexperienced, completely

unqualified, arm-chair cowherd mataji who has no personal knowledge of the

situation or the devotees involved. My only experience with cowherd service

was

minimal in New Vrindavana, so please forgive anything that may sound strange :

 

- Devotees living in the barn conjures the thought in my mind of devotees who

would just rather live in the barn! I think of drifters roaming through NV.

I really hope that's not the case there. Even if everything's legitimate, it

can't be good for preaching and it doesn't allow for the betterment of the

situation of "The Cowherd" in the world of ISKCON. We need a precident and we

need it soon. If not at the Manor, than elsewhere and the blueprint can be

shared throughout all communities. The "lowest bidder" syndrome is not good

for

anyone.

 

 

Anyone can please respond to this. Shyamasundara Prabhu and Hari Kirtan

Prabhu, I am just gathering information and trying to understand what the

letter

is referring to. I am sorry if anything sounds offensive or uninformed.

 

Your servant, Kalavati devi dasi

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

It is 20 hrs per week. We are managing day to day

trying to keep the cows happy with band aid

technology. One good thing is the cows don't talk back

or complain. Occassionally they do say oommm..mm. They

only walk away if the fence has a hole. Even then they

come back if we acll for them.

Thanking you,

sankar sastri

 

 

--- "ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA)"

<ISCOWP (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

> Dear Sankar Sastri,

>

> Hare Krsna.

>

> On your inquirey for cowherd is the 20 hrs per week

> or per month?

>

> We hope all is well with your project.

>

> yr servant,

>

> Balabhadra das

>

> Visit us at: www.iscowp.org

>

>

> > [Original Message]

> > S S <sankar1 >

> > Cow (Protection and related issues)

> <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

> > 3/17/2004 11:00:02 AM

> > (no subject)

> >

> > A cow sanctuary is looking for Go Sevaks - free

> living

> > accommodation with a stipend of $ 500 a month in

> > exchange for 20 hours of service to the cows.The

> > applicants must be cow lovers. The sanctuary is

> > located 70 miles from New York City.

> > Sankar Sastri, Manager

> > Lakshmi Cow Sanctuary. 1515. Ridge Road Bangor.

> Pa

> > 18013

> > 610 599 8824.

> >

> >

> >

> > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less

> spam

> >

>

>

>

>

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> To from this mailing list, send an email

> to:

> Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net

 

 

 

 

Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Cow Conference members,

 

I was thinking that some of you may be interested in the discussions that (I

hope) will gradually develop on these discussion groups. I made these because

they are my three focuses (is that an oxy-moron?) and I believe there is a

need for everyday exchange on these important topics. They are independent

lists but have some core issues in common. Please stop by the mainpage of each

 

group to read the "descriptions" and feel free to share feedback with me -

after

subscribing of course . I really want these lists to be useful and

inspired, so any advice or discussion would be greatly appreciated.

 

In case any of you are wondering what any of this has to do with cow

protection and why I'm posting this information here, I offer this image:

homeschooled Vaisnava children milking cows as active and respected members of

healthy

families who live within strong communities based on compassionate and service

oriented relationships creating a healthy environment and world in which to

practice devotional service and glorify Krishna...

 

Your servant,

Kalavati devi dasi

[Guest guest]

Sorry I can't read the attachment.

 

ys

hkdd

 

Kalavatidevi108 (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

 

>Dear Cow Conference members,

>

>I was thinking that some of you may be interested in the discussions that (I

>hope) will gradually develop on these discussion groups. I made these because

 

>they are my three focuses (is that an oxy-moron?) and I believe there is a

>need for everyday exchange on these important topics. They are independent

>lists but have some core issues in common. Please stop by the mainpage of

each

>

>group to read the "descriptions" and feel free to share feedback with me -

>after

>subscribing of course . I really want these lists to be useful and

>inspired, so any advice or discussion would be greatly appreciated.

>

>In case any of you are wondering what any of this has to do with cow

>protection and why I'm posting this information here, I offer this image:

>homeschooled Vaisnava children milking cows as active and respected members of

>healthy

>families who live within strong communities based on compassionate and service

 

>oriented relationships creating a healthy environment and world in which to

>practice devotional service and glorify Krishna...

>

>Your servant,

>Kalavati devi dasi

>

>

>-----------------------

>To from this mailing list, send an email to:

>Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, the links didn't get on that last one!

 

Vaisnava Homeschoolers

Vaisnava-Homeschoolers

 

Vaisnava Family and Community Conference

VFCC

 

Vaisnava Ecologists

Vaisnava-Ecologists

 

 

 

Ys

Kalavati dd