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Urmila (dd) ACBSP (ISKCON School NC - USA) wrote:

 

>from the New York Times February 6, 2004

>Mad Cow Quandary: Making Animal Feed

>By DENISE GRADY

>

>Published: February 6, 2004

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>

>

>...Though the United States banned the use of cow parts in cattle feed in the

>1990's, it still permits rendered matter from cows to be fed to pigs and

>chickens, and rendered pigs and chickens to be fed back to cows. Critics say

>that in theory, that sequence could bring mad cow disease full circle, back to

>cows.

>

>

 

Thanks, Urmila Prabhu. I hadn't seen that article. Pretty depressing,

in so many ways.

 

About the only good thing is that the more the New York Times and other

media sources run stories like this, the more people will begin to

object to such abuses of the cow, and decide to remove beef and other

meat from their diet.

 

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hkdd

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In a message dated 2/6/04 1:10:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu writes:

 

 

> media sources run stories like this, the more people will begin to

> object to such abuses of the cow, and decide to remove beef and other

> meat from their diet.

 

Some will "object ot abuses" (those are probably already leaning towards

vegetarianism)....Many though will hopefully be scared silly by the possibility

of

becoming "mad cows". The beef industry will lose customers, the market

devaluation will cause the industry to greatly decrease their herds.......OUR

problem with this will be that in peoples minds cow products, such as milk etc.

 

might also have a fear factor .

 

Therefore a public awareness of the "purity" of cow protection. The respect

given to cows in our communities. Our disgust at the idea of giving "meat"

products to these animals.....could be a big plus in the future. However we

have to get our message out there.....Perhaps someone could attempt to get an

article in the NYtimes or other such good medium at this time??? obs eka

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Umapati Swami <umapati (AT) earthlink (DOT) net>

Saturday, February 7, 2004 1:07 am

RE: what dairy cows in America are eating

 

> >About the only good thing is that the more the New York Times and

> other>media sources run stories like this, the more people will

> begin to

> >object to such abuses of the cow, and decide to remove beef and other

> >meat from their diet.

>

> That'll happen next Christmas, after Santa Claus comes down the

> chimney.

 

On the contrary, it's already starting to happen right now. This is why so

many young people are becoming vegan. If you go into the cafeteria of any

progressive college campus nowadays, you will find special entrees aimed at

fulfilling the dietary needs of vegans and vegetarians.

 

It is articles like this in mainstream publication which can be the beginning

point for thoughtful young people to distance themselves from the whole

slaughterhouse industry.

 

But the next point is, once they have made that decision, are we in ISKCON

prepared to show them the next step -- of offering fruits, vegetables, grains

and milk products actually produced with love, on the altar to Their Lordships

Sri Sri Radha Krsna.

 

Thanks to articles like this one in the New York Times, they are ripe for our

preaching -- but are we ready to do the preaching? That's the question. The

more often the answer can be yes, the better for us and the better for them.

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

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In a message dated 2/7/04 12:30:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu writes:

 

 

> but are we ready to do the preaching

 

We have to show respect for other peoples intelligence. Iskcons history

shows that we were not as wise as we would like to think..... "Preaching"?

might

be a word to reconsider. It is a new world out there. In many ways that

world has advanced spiritually faster than we have. Perhaps the phrase sharing

 

our views would be more palatable to the outside world?

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> npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu writes:

>

>

> > but are we ready to do the preaching

>

> We have to show respect for other peoples intelligence. Iskcons

> history

> shows that we were not as wise as we would like to think.....

> "Preaching"?might

> be a word to reconsider. It is a new world out there. In many

> ways that

> world has advanced spiritually faster than we have. Perhaps the

> phrase sharing

>

> our views would be more palatable to the outside world?

>

very well said Ekabuddhi Prabhu.

 

Action truly speaks louder than words.

 

Best to do our mite - do--- not just talk and make plans .

The little sparrow invokes the mercy of the mighty Garuda on whom He who is

the Doer and Cause of all Causes ( karta -karanam) rides.

 

regards

 

Nirguna dasi .

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I'm a little behind and now catching up with last week's messages. In a

recent e-mail from my guru maharaj, Bhaktimarga Swami, he talked about his

objection to the word "preaching" and the attitude it implies.

 

He said, "Another item is the very word "preaching" I personally have some

trouble with it. At least today the word is condescending and not always

accepted as politically correct. Although used in Srila Prabhupada's books

the word was more appropriate then. The intent is the same, to share, to

teach, etc. Just giving Krishna in a palatable way."

 

I have noticed that even though I may not say the word "preaching," they

easily recognize an attitude they don't like. What I've been thinking

about this is that if I speak to them just enough to help them to the very

next step, they can accept it. If they show interest, then the next step

after. I think often if we try to give them the whole thing at one time,

they do not have the capacity to receive it. That seems to me to be what

they're objecting to as "preaching."

 

Hare Krishna,

Pandu das

 

 

 

 

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> Ekabuddh (AT) aol (DOT) com [Ekabuddh (AT) aol (DOT) com]

> Sunday, February 08, 2004 9:22 AM

> npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu; umapati (AT) earthlink (DOT) net

> Cc: Urmila (dd) ACBSP (ISKCON School NC - USA); Ganga IDS;

> news (AT) dipika (DOT) org; Cow (Protection and related issues)

> Re: what dairy cows in America are eating

>

> In a message dated 2/7/04 12:30:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu writes:

>

>

> > but are we ready to do the preaching

>

> We have to show respect for other peoples intelligence. Iskcons history

> shows that we were not as wise as we would like to think.....

> "Preaching"?

> might

> be a word to reconsider. It is a new world out there. In many ways that

> world has advanced spiritually faster than we have. Perhaps the phrase

> sharing

>

> our views would be more palatable to the outside world?

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