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> Also under the excuse of Srila Prabhupada allowing to ofer commercial milk

> we may never make serious effort to get organic milk from protected cows.

We

> will be lazy and never understand that we have to protect cows and use

them

> in Sri Krsan'a service as SrilaPrabhupada allowed to use commercial milk.

> Most devottes may not have access to Milk of protected cows.

 

Extremely late response to thread from a while back.

 

The one thing from skimming thru all the posts that stuck in my mind was

that traditionally, milk was not a sourced\ of protein - rice and dahls

were. So commonsensical. Milk is an opulence not a commodity as it is

considered in modern society.

 

I think most of the health negatives about modern milk ha e to do with

accumulated pesticides and antibiotics, and excessive consumption. Like a

teeter totter, a little milk is beneficial, but too much becomes

unhealthful. One cup or two a day, taken with whole grains and beans, and

lots of fresh fruits and vegetables can be shown thru meta analysis of

existing studies to be healthful. Best milk is from cows on pasture, who

graze not only grass but a variety of other plants, including medicinal

herbs, all of which accumulate good qualities in the milk.

 

Bear in mind, traditional milk was drunk warm directly from the cow, or in

the form of yoghurt. Yoghurt is sort of predigested milk, making it easier

for our systems to take. Milk is not like water or soda, it should be

considered heavy food.

 

I think vegans should be respected for taking an ethical stand against the

way milk is produced. Most would drink milk if production was humane, in my

experience. I think in any case, devotees should be allowed to make some

compromise if they have to buy commercial milk to get small healthy quota,

but to buy commercial milk in excess, that can not be excused just because

it is "offered".

 

"I do not know what you are eating, but the eating program should be

nutritious and simple, not luxurious. That means capatis, dahl, vegetables,

some butter, some fruits and milk. This is necessary for keeping good

health. But we should not indulge in sweetballs or halevah or like that

daily. Too much first-class eating may stimulate our sex desires, especially

sweet preparations. Anyway, eat Krishna Prasadam, but be careful that we may

not indulge in luxury. For Krishna we can offer the most beautiful

preparations, but for us Prasadam should be very simple."

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Letter to: Gargamuni -- London 20 November, 1969

 

There are a few ideas that have been discussed how to move to more protected

milk, but basically it all involves paying a significantly higher price, and

the committement of individuals, esp leaders, to set example.

 

Soy was discussed. I think same principle applies here. Much of the negative

publicity about soy comes from extracting active ingredients and

concentrating them in supplements. Taking the active ingredients out of

complex where they act synergistically, and concentrating them so they are

at much higher doses than would be consumed in normal diet.

 

Also, soy was traditionally eaten as tempeh or tofu, in moderation with lots

of rice and vegetables. Much of the modern faux meats are made from TVP,

which is an industrial process of treating soy, a lot for the purpose of

disposing of the meal after the oil has been extracted. I think a lot of

the bad press about soy should be in context of nontraditional means of

preparation, and not a blanket condemnation of soy in general.

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