Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 This is well-written and thoughtful response to a potentially life-threatening situation. Is there any way you could put something like this together for posting on Dipika, VNN and Chakra. Unfortunately, the GBC are generally very slow in communicating material like this to the general body of devotees. However, groups like this to a lot of publicity and fund raising on these public forums. It would do a lot to push groups like this towards compliance with ISKCON standards if they realized that potantial donors and ISKCON authorities were educated on what responsible standards of animal care and public safety should be. ys hkdd ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA) wrote: >Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, > >Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! > >Just recently an incident concerning Padayatra America in Alachua was >brought to our attention. It concerns a situation that could have concluded >in bodily injury or death to devotees, non devotees and the Padayatra >horses. We have answered the concerned letter below, and considering the >seriousness of the incident, have asked further questions. We greatly >appreciate the austerities that the prabhus of Padyatra America are >undergoing to perform their service but there are certain legal, medical, >teamster qualifying requirements that should be met so Srila Prabhupada's >house is not put in jeopardy by accidents and/or careless behavior. > >Also included at the end of the letter is Standard 7, Traveling and >Preaching Programs, of ISKCON Law 507 The Minimum Cow Protection Standards. >This is for your further information as to what is considered safe in such >programs. > >For a short time there was an exchange on the cow conference ( therefore >the cow conference is a receiver) about the use of horses instead of oxen >for Padayatra America. Below the answer to the concerned letter is just >two of the cow conference exchanges which contain a couple of relevant >points.One point is that there is no reply from the devotee in charge of >Padayatra America to the concern of laws and diseases. In transporting >animals from state to state you are required to abide by state laws for >bringing animals into the state. These laws are mostly about health >considerations.Are these being met? > >When ISCOWP traveled with oxen to do Rathayatra festivals as well as non >devotee events we carried a Insurance policy of $1,000,000 for property and >liability. This is standard to be able to do anything in a public place. >The Festival Of India also carries their own insurance policy. The policy >that we had allowed other parties to be added to the policy for whatever >days we were in their zone and participating in their Festival/event. >Depending on the state(California was the toughest), there was always >additional parties added to our policy so that if anyone got hurt by the >oxen or property damaged then the Dept of Parks and recreation(for example) >was also covered on our insurance policy. > >My additional questions are: Does Padayatra America have their program >covered by an Insurance Policy? Is this Padayatra America authorized by >ISKCON to travel and preach on behalf of ISKCON? What branch of ISKCON has >given the authorization and who has made sure that all necessary legal and >medical procedures will be met by the Prabhus operating the daily >activities of this Padayatra? > > I am looking forward to the timely reply of responsible parties. Thank you. > >Your servant, >Balabhadra das >ISKCON Ministry for Cow Protection and Agriculture > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 There is a very nice article in latest BTG about Padayatra America.Their preaching is most inspiring and their faith in Krsna will overcome all obstacles. It must have been a bit much for the horses at times . - Noma Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu> Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:55 AM Re: Padayatra America Safety/Legal Concerns > This is well-written and thoughtful response to a potentially > life-threatening situation. Is there any way you could put something > like this together for posting on Dipika, VNN and Chakra. > > Unfortunately, the GBC are generally very slow in communicating material > like this to the general body of devotees. However, groups like this to > a lot of publicity and fund raising on these public forums. > > It would do a lot to push groups like this towards compliance with > ISKCON standards if they realized that potantial donors and ISKCON > authorities were educated on what responsible standards of animal care > and public safety should be. > > ys > hkdd > > ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA) wrote: > > >Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, > > > >Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! > > > >Just recently an incident concerning Padayatra America in Alachua was > >brought to our attention. It concerns a situation that could have concluded > >in bodily injury or death to devotees, non devotees and the Padayatra > >horses. We have answered the concerned letter below, and considering the > >seriousness of the incident, have asked further questions. We greatly > >appreciate the austerities that the prabhus of Padyatra America are > >undergoing to perform their service but there are certain legal, medical, > >teamster qualifying requirements that should be met so Srila Prabhupada's > >house is not put in jeopardy by accidents and/or careless behavior. > > > >Also included at the end of the letter is Standard 7, Traveling and > >Preaching Programs, of ISKCON Law 507 The Minimum Cow Protection Standards. > >This is for your further information as to what is considered safe in such > >programs. > > > >For a short time there was an exchange on the cow conference ( therefore > >the cow conference is a receiver) about the use of horses instead of oxen > >for Padayatra America. Below the answer to the concerned letter is just > >two of the cow conference exchanges which contain a couple of relevant > >points.One point is that there is no reply from the devotee in charge of > >Padayatra America to the concern of laws and diseases. In transporting > >animals from state to state you are required to abide by state laws for > >bringing animals into the state. These laws are mostly about health > >considerations.Are these being met? > > > >When ISCOWP traveled with oxen to do Rathayatra festivals as well as non > >devotee events we carried a Insurance policy of $1,000,000 for property and > >liability. This is standard to be able to do anything in a public place. > >The Festival Of India also carries their own insurance policy. The policy > >that we had allowed other parties to be added to the policy for whatever > >days we were in their zone and participating in their Festival/event. > >Depending on the state(California was the toughest), there was always > >additional parties added to our policy so that if anyone got hurt by the > >oxen or property damaged then the Dept of Parks and recreation(for example) > >was also covered on our insurance policy. > > > >My additional questions are: Does Padayatra America have their program > >covered by an Insurance Policy? Is this Padayatra America authorized by > >ISKCON to travel and preach on behalf of ISKCON? What branch of ISKCON has > >given the authorization and who has made sure that all necessary legal and > >medical procedures will be met by the Prabhus operating the daily > >activities of this Padayatra? > > > > I am looking forward to the timely reply of responsible parties. Thank you. > > > >Your servant, > >Balabhadra das > >ISKCON Ministry for Cow Protection and Agriculture > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > To from this mailing list, send an email to: > Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2004 Report Share Posted March 11, 2004 Rosalie Malik wrote: >There is a very nice article in latest BTG about Padayatra America.Their >preaching is most inspiring and their faith in Krsna will overcome all >obstacles. It must have been a bit much for the horses at times . >- >Noma Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu> >Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> >Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:55 AM >Re: Padayatra America Safety/Legal Concerns > Yes, I saw it. It was a nice presentation. Unfortunately, just because they have a nice article written about them doesn't mean that they are not abusing animals or neglecting public safety. However, that aspect is not the responsibility of the BTG. Their job is simply to publicize various activities, and they do that very nicely. It is however, the responsibility of the Ministry of Cow Protection and Agriculture to monitor issues of animal welfare and related public safetry issues in ISKCON. I think they are right to take the reports that they have received very seriously. Any instances of bad publicity for animal abuse or lawsuits from lack of upholding public safety standards would be a set back to ISKCON's preaching efforts. I'm glad that the Ministry of Cow Protection and Agriculture is actively pursuing the facts in this situation, and reminding ISKCON officials of the proper standards to be upheld. ys hkdd >>ISCOWP (Balabhadra Dasa & Chaya Dasi - USA) wrote: >> >> >> >>>Dear Maharajas and Prabhus, >>> >>>Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! >>> >>>Just recently an incident concerning Padayatra America in Alachua was >>>brought to our attention. It concerns a situation that could have >>> >>> >concluded > > >>>in bodily injury or death to devotees, non devotees and the Padayatra >>>horses. We have answered the concerned letter below, and considering the >>>seriousness of the incident, have asked further questions. We greatly >>>appreciate the austerities that the prabhus of Padyatra America are >>>undergoing to perform their service but there are certain legal, medical, >>>teamster qualifying requirements that should be met so Srila Prabhupada's >>>house is not put in jeopardy by accidents and/or careless behavior. >>> >>>Also included at the end of the letter is Standard 7, Traveling and >>>Preaching Programs, of ISKCON Law 507 The Minimum Cow Protection >>> >>> >Standards. > > >>>This is for your further information as to what is considered safe in >>> >>> >such > > >>>programs. >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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