Guest guest Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Our big problem here is a type of bird called a pukekohe. About the size of a large duck with a beak like a pair of pruning shears. They not only risk the spread of avian TB to our cows but will dessimate a seedling crop of whatever you plant overnight. It is soooo disheartening to have planted out an acre of various seedlings, only to find the next morning 70 % of them simply pulled out of the ground. They dont even eat them, just basic vandals !! they are profusious breeders hatching 4 - 5 eggs about 3 times a year. They also wreck young trees that we plant having very strong beaks. So when I'm out fencing etc, I regularily come across nests and admit the thought entering my mind to stand on the nest. they arent scared of cats either. - hmmm maybe I need a Tiger !! Your thoughts Ananta Krsna Dasi ann (AT) aucklandinsulation (DOT) co.nz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 >I regularily come across nests and admit the thought entering my mind to > stand on the nest. they arent scared of cats either. - hmmm maybe I need a > Tiger !! > Your thoughts > Ananta Krsna Dasi Personally, I wouldn't think twice about destroying the nests. An old rural trick is to kill one, then hang it in the field you want them out of. Pretty effective. Have you looked into the Japanese "scary eye" balloons? They are balloons you hang around the perimeter of the field. The "eye" on the balloon evokes an avoidance response from birds who are prey to raptors. They are hung on string so they move some in the breeze. Back when I was trying to maintain 200 blueberry plants for NV, birds were a major headache. Netting would work, but was a big job setting up and taking down for that many highbush blueberry plants, and made picking more difficult. Plus one time a snake got tangled in the netting. That was a whole drama getting it freed. It was nonpoisonous but a 6 foot long black snake, and I have a normal fear of snakes. :-) Anyway, so I tried the scary eye balloons. They did stop the mass attacks by the flocking black birds (cowbirds, starlings, red winged blackbirds, others of that sort) that could land en masse and wipe out a bush in minutes. However, other fruit eating birds like robins and thrushes weren't detered. They would enter the area on nearly ground level flight patterns, using the bushes themselves as cover from the balloons. Or maybe they realized it was a sham. They would come singlely, but over the course of time would consume a great amount, as a lot of them came. Of course, what finally caused me to abandon the project wasn't the birds, tho they pushed me to the tipping point. It was the devotees, who would never lift a finger to help, but as soon as the berries were ripe would swoop down and take whatever they wanted.. No respect given to orderly and systematic picking. No notification of when they intended to pick. They would pull up the netting. pick berries, and then not bother replacing it correctly. They would damage twigs by rough picking techniques. Of course, zero gratitiude. Naturally, management couldn't be bothered with such a trifling afair. So I stopped taking care of them and the rose bushes took over. An old Native American method of protecting fields from larger pests, was to build a platform in the field and have someone sit on it. It was sometimes tied to courtship, as the young girls would sit there and the suitors would come by and chat. Maybe you could find someone so absorbed in the scriotures that they would sit there and read and chant. When the crow or animal would come, clapping and dancing in ecstasy would frighten themaway, or a loud "Hari Bol" might work. A modern twist on this would be use of a carbide cannon. At sort of regular intervals it goes off in a loud "Bang" scaring away birds, but the problem is that soon the birds would realize it was no real danger. I remember living upstairs in the old barn. Deer would come out and eat in the corn field on the other side of the hollow. I would go up on the barn roof and shoot my .308 into the far slope. At first, they would run away and not come back until the next day. After a few weeks, they got used to it and eventually wouldn't even flinch. If I would shoot really close to their grazing head, and kick up dirt right in front of them, that would scare them. But next day they would be back. Ammo cost started to be an issue, and devotees were complaing the random timing of the discharge noise and the crack of the sound barrier being broken over their heads by the projectile was disturbing them. Plus, at the distance, I wasn't that confident of my ability to judge windage, elevation , and hold steady, so as close as I had to get, inevitablely I would have killed one of the deer by mistake, and didn't want to do that, so I stopped. We eventually abandoned that field as deer pressure grew. It has grown steadily worse over the last 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2005 Report Share Posted August 21, 2005 We've got squash and watermelons that are getting eaten by something, I think perhaps voles. I wouldn't mind so much if they'd eat a whole squash, but they usually eat about the size of a ping-pong ball and then do the same with another one. I don't know why they're not satisfied to eat the compost and instead go for tiny watermelons that aren't even close to ripe yet. Hare Krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 These birds are so brazen they only sqwark when a .22 goes off in their ear and even if you throw a fire cracker at them they just jump 5 cm and then try to eat it !! They attack any other bird and if one of their own is left dead in the paddock they have a go at that too !! We also cover small vege gardens but pretty impracticle when cropping 5 acres. Its almost us or them !! cheers Ananta > >I regularily come across nests and admit the thought entering my mind to > > stand on the nest. they arent scared of cats either. - hmmm maybe I need a > > Tiger !! > > Your thoughts > > Ananta Krsna Dasi > > Personally, I wouldn't think twice about destroying the nests. > > An old rural trick is to kill one, then hang it in the field you want them > out of. Pretty effective. > > Have you looked into the Japanese "scary eye" balloons? They are balloons > you hang around the perimeter of the field. The "eye" on the balloon evokes > an avoidance response from birds who are prey to raptors. They are hung on > string so they move some in the breeze. > > Back when I was trying to maintain 200 blueberry plants for NV, birds were a > major headache. Netting would work, but was a big job setting up and taking > down for that many highbush blueberry plants, and made picking more > difficult. Plus one time a snake got tangled in the netting. That was a > whole drama getting it freed. It was nonpoisonous but a 6 foot long black > snake, and I have a normal fear of snakes. :-) > > Anyway, so I tried the scary eye balloons. They did stop the mass attacks by > the flocking black birds (cowbirds, starlings, red winged blackbirds, others > of that sort) that could land en masse and wipe out a bush in minutes. > > However, other fruit eating birds like robins and thrushes weren't detered. > They would enter the area on nearly ground level flight patterns, using the > bushes themselves as cover from the balloons. Or maybe they realized it was > a sham. They would come singlely, but over the course of time would consume > a great amount, as a lot of them came. > > Of course, what finally caused me to abandon the project wasn't the birds, > tho they pushed me to the tipping point. It was the devotees, who would > never lift a finger to help, but as soon as the berries were ripe would > swoop down and take whatever they wanted.. No respect given to orderly and > systematic picking. No notification of when they intended to pick. They > would pull up the netting. pick berries, and then not bother replacing it > correctly. They would damage twigs by rough picking techniques. Of course, > zero gratitiude. Naturally, management couldn't be bothered with such a > trifling afair. So I stopped taking care of them and the rose bushes took > over. > > An old Native American method of protecting fields from larger pests, was to > build a platform in the field and have someone sit on it. It was sometimes > tied to courtship, as the young girls would sit there and the suitors would > come by and chat. Maybe you could find someone so absorbed in the > scriotures that they would sit there and read and chant. When the crow or > animal would come, clapping and dancing in ecstasy would frighten themaway, > or a loud "Hari Bol" might work. > > A modern twist on this would be use of a carbide cannon. At sort of regular > intervals it goes off in a loud "Bang" scaring away birds, but the problem > is that soon the birds would realize it was no real danger. > > I remember living upstairs in the old barn. Deer would come out and eat in > the corn field on the other side of the hollow. I would go up on the barn > roof and shoot my .308 into the far slope. At first, they would run away and > not come back until the next day. After a few weeks, they got used to it > and eventually wouldn't even flinch. If I would shoot really close to their > grazing head, and kick up dirt right in front of them, that would scare > them. But next day they would be back. Ammo cost started to be an issue, > and devotees were complaing the random timing of the discharge noise and the > crack of the sound barrier being broken over their heads by the projectile > was disturbing them. Plus, at the distance, I wasn't that confident of my > ability to judge windage, elevation , and hold steady, so as close as I had > to get, inevitablely I would have killed one of the deer by mistake, and > didn't want to do that, so I stopped. We eventually abandoned that field as > deer pressure grew. It has grown steadily worse over the last 30 years. > > > > > ----------------------- > To from this mailing list, send an email to: > Cow-Owner (AT) pamho (DOT) net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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