Guest guest Posted August 23, 2005 Report Share Posted August 23, 2005 >We know that in an emergency even the killing of a cow is allowed so what >can be killed in the normal farming process and in what circumstances. > >Comments please. > >ys syam > > > A couple weeks ago, Syamasundar made this comment and was completely shot down, with others pointing that a cow could never be killed under any circumstance. At the time, I was sure he was thinking of Prabhupada's statement in the Bhagavatam, but I didn't have time to look it up then. But I just wanted to note that Syamasundar is indeed correct about Prabhupada's position in this matter. I finally got a chance to look up the relevant quote, which appears in the 4th Canto in the pastimes of Prthu Maharaja. In the context, Prthu is threatening to kill the cow-shaped earth and feed her flesh to his starving citizens: ***************************** TRANSLATION Now, with the help of my arrows, I shall cut you to pieces and with your flesh satisfy the hunger-stricken citizens, who are now crying for want of grains. Thus I shall satisfy the crying citizens of my kingdom. PURPORT Here we find some indication of how the government can arrange for the eating of cow flesh. It is here indicated that in a rare circumstance when there is no supply of grains, the government may sanction the eating of meat. However, when there is sufficient food, the government should not allow the eating of cow's flesh just to satisfy the fastidious tongue. In other words, in rare circumstances, when people are suffering for want of grains, meat-eating or flesh-eating can be allowed, but not otherwise. The maintenance of slaughterhouses for the satisfaction of the tongue and the killing of animals unnecessarily should never be sanctioned by a government. As described in a previous verse, cows and other animals should be given sufficient grass to eat. If despite a sufficient supply of grass a cow does not supply milk, and if there is an acute shortage of food, the dried-up cow may be utilized to feed the hungry masses of people. According to the law of necessity, first of all human society must try to produce food grains and vegetables, but if they fail in this, they can indulge in flesh-eating. Otherwise not. As human society is presently structured, there is sufficient production of grains all over the world. Therefore the opening of slaughterhouses cannot be supported. In some nations there is so much surplus grain that sometimes extra grain is thrown into the sea, and sometimes the government forbids further production of grain. The conclusion is that the earth produces sufficient grain to feed the entire population, but the distribution of this grain is restricted due to trade regulations and a desire for profit. Consequently in some places there is scarcity of grain and in others profuse production. If there were one government on the surface of the earth to handle the distribution of grain, there would be no question of scarcity, no necessity to open slaughterhouses, and no need to present false theories about over-population. SB 4.17.26 ***************************** I always thought this was a remarkable quote from Srila Prabhupada. Just as the mayavadis use the Bhagavad-gita as a pretext for non-violence by converting all the killing aspects to symbolism, Srila Prabhupada could have presented an evasive purport here. He could have said that Prthu was not really going to kill the cow. But, on the contrary, as befits a brahmana gifted by the quality of arjavam or straightforwardness, Prabhupada deliberately addresses the issue head-on. He states that Prthu's actions are an example of a rare circumstance where a government can sanction the eating of meat. Then he carefully goes on to emphasize that this is not the situation in the modern world, and cannot be taken to sanction the opening of slaughterhouses. In reality, I believe that faced with the actual situation, no one on this conference would be able to kill a beloved family cow, even if it meant his children had to starve to death. I personally don't think I could bring myself to do it. But, in theory, Prabhupada clearly states that in extreme circumstances that the government can make such arrangements. Thus, Syamasundar prabhu should be vindicated for his comment, which is completely in keeping with Prabhupada's instructions. It's important that we be aware of all aspects of Prabhupada's presentation on this topic so we can convey the fine points to others. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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