Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Haribol Prabhus, from the points presented so far it seems there is a general understanding that devotees will not consciously kill even a fly in agriculture. A devotee will not squash a fly or poison the insects on the veg. Gopananda talking about trees has reminded us of the 4th Canto where the destroying of trees for the establishing of agricultural fields was permitted. Now we have to have a clear understanding on the natural arrangements of pest minimisation: We can not stamp on the rat but we can keep a cat who will eat the rat?. We cannot kill the greenfly on the crops but we can encourage the ladybird who will do it for us? We cannot kill the birds but we can keep a dog or cat who may do it for us? Are we saying that we as devotees cannot directly kill something but we can indirectly kill something by natural arrangement? What are the thoughts on this please. ys syam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 > > Are we saying that we as devotees cannot directly kill something but we can > indirectly kill something by natural arrangement? > > What are the thoughts on this please. Somewhere in my ramblings I feel my main point has been missed, as it is not included in your summation. Said point being: If you buy produce or other agricultural products in the market, you are as responsible for any measures taken to produce that product as if you had performed the activity yourself. That as devotees, the general principle is if you can't do the best thing, then do the best possible thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 > ...Because it is in our demoniac Western culture not to be merciful, we > want to find excuses to kill our fellow living beings. > Srila Prabhupada has commented extensively on the subject, however now we > are comparing insects as our "enemies"?? It is difficult for me to comprehend how you could come to such a conclusion based on the discussion so far. On the surface, it appears to be a strawman argument, not conducive to genuine communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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