Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN I was raised in the melting pot of sorts in India, Madhya Pradesh, in the 50s, 60s and early parts of 70s, then I moved to spend one of my most significant years in life in Chandigarh, UT but really in punjabi culture and then in Varanasi for several years (I will write about that later, maybe!) and then was KARMICALLY (YES! That SAME Guy!) ousted from India and its culture (culture too? Was I?? Why am I here still on this and similar forums/fora???) An allien kid raised amongst hindi speaking kids, experiencing no encouragement from my bengali parents really to go and blend with my *kind* and just let loose to roam freely amongst cultures and individuals therefrom that ran into me and I ran into and who opened themselves to me, gujrati, MAHARASHTRIAN, Jain, Muslim, Parsi, South Indians (MY 'Dad' just adored them for their intelligence, work ethic and here and now pragmatism! Obviously he was biased but made no bones about it and entertained no argument being the authoritarian that he was). I will confess, friends! I learned and tuned into the finer nuances of differences way much later in life. Before that point, they were all the same to me, and just mine! Chacha Gulam Rasool, the ex- national hockey star, relegated to a relatively minor role in India back then as the sports coach in a school/University, the guy who taught me a lot about humility through his life (not then but when I *woke* up) and took me to swimming lessons and really I kid you not, I first realized that he was a muslim and different (but not really!) when years later his son invited us class friends almost under duress by that gujrati guy Pradeep (who was like a brother through all those years) but really wanted to have a nonvegetarian meal that his vaishnav parents would never allow and made Rasool Chacha's son to invite us all for an ID dinner, one of the most enjoyable communal meal we all friends had together from the same shared plate, as all brothers should! The best banquet I have had the privilege of attending pales in comparison of that relative simple evening even though it was forced upon someone hesitant and unprepared for such love, even though it was extremely selfish of Pradeep to have forced that to happen! Imagine? A descendent of Krishna, a Yadav, a Mehta to make that beautiful evening happen between friends separated by religions and cultures because their forefathers could not figure out the simple reality so it was left to their children, to embrace! It is always about food! Food is what brings us together, once we succumb to our intrinsic drive -- hunger! Khan Chachchaa, my dad's senior steno or typist who was crazy as a bat, they said, but who was the chosen one by my dad to teach me touch typing (hard to argue with 100 wpm or maybe 140! I never could pin him down to a number let alone surpass it, of course!). I have been many things, but believe me friends that happenstance skill I picked up did bring me some pride and utility later on :-) When life opens a door, just enter it -- even if seemingly a near madman stands on the other side! Particularly when a harmless madman stands there just there to teach and wants nothing from you in return but a smile of gratitude perhaps! Growing up, I had many maharashtrian friends, Jains too, Punjabis, Bengalis, and then I moved to Chandrigarh where I really ran into South Indian Friends (YA!), the range is just indescribable, same as my earlier experiences with Jains, Maharashtrians and Bengalis (I might be biased [oh those negative calcutta experiences in 0h so remote nearly forgotten childhood, but these were the most tightly bunched up kind of guys I must admit except one or few -- I did not get to know too many Bengali gals so cannot comment). I did run into the same *sampling* in addition to other cultures when I was given the passage to other countries, other cultures! You want my two cents? Same difference! But the same trait that is tolerable in your own son and even forgivable may not be treated similarly in a neighbour's offspring or worse, in an enemy's or *perceived* enemy's child! Please remember that before you announce the verdict!! The same 67 cents (okay with inflation $5.79) worth of chemicals! But the entire framework changes, shifts and so does the personal jurisprudence and ethic? As they say, it is really all about THE JUDGE and not the Judgment that defines one's PERSONAL REALITY! RR SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Mr RR i have never seen you anaylising any horoscope tell do you realy know astrology Tarun Chopra www.occultwizard.com On 6/3/06, crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote: > > TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN > > I was raised in the melting pot of sorts in India, Madhya Pradesh, in > the 50s, 60s and early parts of 70s, then I moved to spend one of my > most significant years in life in Chandigarh, UT but really in > punjabi culture and then in Varanasi for several years (I will write > about that later, maybe!) and then was KARMICALLY (YES! That SAME > Guy!) ousted from India and its culture (culture too? Was I?? Why am > I here still on this and similar forums/fora???) > > An allien kid raised amongst hindi speaking kids, experiencing no > encouragement from my bengali parents really to go and blend with my > *kind* and just let loose to roam freely amongst cultures and > individuals therefrom that ran into me and I ran into and who opened > themselves to me, gujrati, MAHARASHTRIAN, Jain, Muslim, Parsi, South > Indians (MY 'Dad' just adored them for their intelligence, work ethic > and here and now pragmatism! Obviously he was biased but made no > bones about it and entertained no argument being the authoritarian > that he was). > > I will confess, friends! I learned and tuned into the finer nuances > of differences way much later in life. Before that point, they were > all the same to me, and just mine! Chacha Gulam Rasool, the ex- > national hockey star, relegated to a relatively minor role in India > back then as the sports coach in a school/University, the guy who > taught me a lot about humility through his life (not then but when I > *woke* up) and took me to swimming lessons and really I kid you not, > I first realized that he was a muslim and different (but not really!) > when years later his son invited us class friends almost under duress > by that gujrati guy Pradeep (who was like a brother through all those > years) but really wanted to have a nonvegetarian meal that his > vaishnav parents would never allow and made Rasool Chacha's son to > invite us all for an ID dinner, one of the most enjoyable communal > meal we all friends had together from the same shared plate, as all > brothers should! The best banquet I have had the privilege of > attending pales in comparison of that relative simple evening even > though it was forced upon someone hesitant and unprepared for such > love, even though it was extremely selfish of Pradeep to have forced > that to happen! Imagine? A descendent of Krishna, a Yadav, a Mehta to > make that beautiful evening happen between friends separated by > religions and cultures because their forefathers could not figure out > the simple reality so it was left to their children, to embrace! It > is always about food! Food is what brings us together, once we > succumb to our intrinsic drive -- hunger! > > Khan Chachchaa, my dad's senior steno or typist who was crazy as a > bat, they said, but who was the chosen one by my dad to teach me > touch typing (hard to argue with 100 wpm or maybe 140! I never could > pin him down to a number let alone surpass it, of course!). I have > been many things, but believe me friends that happenstance skill I > picked up did bring me some pride and utility later on :-) When life > opens a door, just enter it -- even if seemingly a near madman stands > on the other side! Particularly when a harmless madman stands there > just there to teach and wants nothing from you in return but a smile > of gratitude perhaps! > > Growing up, I had many maharashtrian friends, Jains too, Punjabis, > Bengalis, and then I moved to Chandrigarh where I really ran into > South Indian Friends (YA!), the range is just indescribable, same as > my earlier experiences with Jains, Maharashtrians and Bengalis (I > might be biased [oh those negative calcutta experiences in 0h so > remote nearly forgotten childhood, but these were the most tightly > bunched up kind of guys I must admit except one or few -- I did not > get to know too many Bengali gals so cannot comment). > > I did run into the same *sampling* in addition to other cultures when > I was given the passage to other countries, other cultures! > > You want my two cents? Same difference! But the same trait that is > tolerable in your own son and even forgivable may not be treated > similarly in a neighbour's offspring or worse, in an enemy's or > *perceived* enemy's child! Please remember that before you announce > the verdict!! > > The same 67 cents (okay with inflation $5.79) worth of chemicals! But > the entire framework changes, shifts and so does the personal > jurisprudence and ethic? > > As they say, it is really all about THE JUDGE and not the Judgment > that defines one's PERSONAL REALITY! > > RR > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 No Tarun ji, I am merely trying to learn from what YOU learned people toss to us hungry beggars on the side, when you feel so full as to share out of your kindness. my begging baskets can be found at the following URLs: http://www.boloji.com/astro [caution -- not all article there are by me so please do not give me credit for what I did not write!] http://continue.to/jyotish crystal_pages <don't click yet, just move to the next link" jyotish-vani <please do browse through the files sections on all sites that I post, including this one -- I mean Jyotish_remedies! Then there is the library on compuserve.com (astrology forum), widget forum and -- hopefully you would not announce next that my entire life has been wasted ;-) RR , "Tarun Chopra" <occultwizard.tarun> wrote: > > Mr RR i have never seen you anaylising any horoscope tell do you realy know > astrology > > Tarun Chopra > www.occultwizard.com > > On 6/3/06, crystal pages <rrgb> wrote: > > > > TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN > > > > I was raised in the melting pot of sorts in India, Madhya Pradesh, in > > the 50s, 60s and early parts of 70s, then I moved to spend one of my > > most significant years in life in Chandigarh, UT but really in > > punjabi culture and then in Varanasi for several years (I will write > > about that later, maybe!) and then was KARMICALLY (YES! That SAME > > Guy!) ousted from India and its culture (culture too? Was I?? Why am > > I here still on this and similar forums/fora???) > > > > An allien kid raised amongst hindi speaking kids, experiencing no > > encouragement from my bengali parents really to go and blend with my > > *kind* and just let loose to roam freely amongst cultures and > > individuals therefrom that ran into me and I ran into and who opened > > themselves to me, gujrati, MAHARASHTRIAN, Jain, Muslim, Parsi, South > > Indians (MY 'Dad' just adored them for their intelligence, work ethic > > and here and now pragmatism! Obviously he was biased but made no > > bones about it and entertained no argument being the authoritarian > > that he was). > > > > I will confess, friends! I learned and tuned into the finer nuances > > of differences way much later in life. Before that point, they were > > all the same to me, and just mine! Chacha Gulam Rasool, the ex- > > national hockey star, relegated to a relatively minor role in India > > back then as the sports coach in a school/University, the guy who > > taught me a lot about humility through his life (not then but when I > > *woke* up) and took me to swimming lessons and really I kid you not, > > I first realized that he was a muslim and different (but not really!) > > when years later his son invited us class friends almost under duress > > by that gujrati guy Pradeep (who was like a brother through all those > > years) but really wanted to have a nonvegetarian meal that his > > vaishnav parents would never allow and made Rasool Chacha's son to > > invite us all for an ID dinner, one of the most enjoyable communal > > meal we all friends had together from the same shared plate, as all > > brothers should! The best banquet I have had the privilege of > > attending pales in comparison of that relative simple evening even > > though it was forced upon someone hesitant and unprepared for such > > love, even though it was extremely selfish of Pradeep to have forced > > that to happen! Imagine? A descendent of Krishna, a Yadav, a Mehta to > > make that beautiful evening happen between friends separated by > > religions and cultures because their forefathers could not figure out > > the simple reality so it was left to their children, to embrace! It > > is always about food! Food is what brings us together, once we > > succumb to our intrinsic drive -- hunger! > > > > Khan Chachchaa, my dad's senior steno or typist who was crazy as a > > bat, they said, but who was the chosen one by my dad to teach me > > touch typing (hard to argue with 100 wpm or maybe 140! I never could > > pin him down to a number let alone surpass it, of course!). I have > > been many things, but believe me friends that happenstance skill I > > picked up did bring me some pride and utility later on :-) When life > > opens a door, just enter it -- even if seemingly a near madman stands > > on the other side! Particularly when a harmless madman stands there > > just there to teach and wants nothing from you in return but a smile > > of gratitude perhaps! > > > > Growing up, I had many maharashtrian friends, Jains too, Punjabis, > > Bengalis, and then I moved to Chandrigarh where I really ran into > > South Indian Friends (YA!), the range is just indescribable, same as > > my earlier experiences with Jains, Maharashtrians and Bengalis (I > > might be biased [oh those negative calcutta experiences in 0h so > > remote nearly forgotten childhood, but these were the most tightly > > bunched up kind of guys I must admit except one or few -- I did not > > get to know too many Bengali gals so cannot comment). > > > > I did run into the same *sampling* in addition to other cultures when > > I was given the passage to other countries, other cultures! > > > > You want my two cents? Same difference! But the same trait that is > > tolerable in your own son and even forgivable may not be treated > > similarly in a neighbour's offspring or worse, in an enemy's or > > *perceived* enemy's child! Please remember that before you announce > > the verdict!! > > > > The same 67 cents (okay with inflation $5.79) worth of chemicals! But > > the entire framework changes, shifts and so does the personal > > jurisprudence and ethic? > > > > As they say, it is really all about THE JUDGE and not the Judgment > > that defines one's PERSONAL REALITY! > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE > > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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