Guest guest Posted March 6, 2001 Report Share Posted March 6, 2001 Dear Pancaratna prabhu, thank you for continuing this dialogue. More below: Hare Krsna dasi comments: > > > 1. What is the cost of 1 unit (gallon, liter or > whatever) of milk from a > > cow in > > a *mature* protected herd? > > You have rightly pointed out that ISKCON farm > records are insufficient to > use as a base for this calculation. However, perhaps > we could understand > what you would mean by "mature"? What is the > criteria for judging a > protected herd to be mature? First, ISKCON farm records are the best we've got, and I hope will yield the figures I am after. For herd maturity the criteria I am using, worked out with Symasundar UK, is that of the optimum numbers of cows that one milkhand can milk twice a day. I outlined the 12:60 model in my discussion document (don't know if you read it), but I have refined it further to a 24:120 model. The former stipulates that if 3 calves are born each year, then 3 mothers will give milk. If they give extended lactations of an average 4 years, then there will, after 4 years, be 12 cows giving milk: 3 in yr1, 3 in yr2, 3 in yr 3, 3 in yr4. This should yield an average of 8 litres per year per cow. So 12 cows milking times 8 litres = 100 litres per day. At $1 a litre price on delivery then that is a $100 day milk income. So, above is a continuous loop of 4 year milk cycles with 3 cows in each of the 4 years. This will be mature at year 4. Also is a continuous loop of animals being born and dying. You should remember that I teach Geography, so this is all to do with population dynamics. If 3 calves are born each year, then after 20 years the first 3 cows will now be 20 and will be ready to die, if not already dead. So at year 20 (average (depends on species and breed)) the herd will mature as the new 3 calves will replace the oldest cows, so the population will not increase more, but stay the same. The population should be 60 cows - 3 cows in each year form 0 to 20. There is a big diference between the time the maximum milk yield occurs, at year 4, and the time the maximum herd number occurs, at year 20. If the price of milk is worked out for herd maturity - meaning the cow compartment of 30 mothers (not including males, who are costed seperately paid for by grain and crop production) then the maximum cost, at year 20, is figured in even in the earlier years; wheras milk yield maximises at year 4. So from year 4 to year 20 there is financial surplus, as the costs are for herd maturity, but the herd is still maturing. This excess could be used to place in the charity to assure the mature cow herd, so that if the farm ever fails then the mature herd is assured for the rest of its life, even without further production. The 24:120 model takes into account the workers needs. It would take one milker to milk 12 cows, yet s/he will need a holiday and weekends, but 2 workers is not efficient. So if two units are combined to a mature herd of 120 then there would be 24 cows to milk. This could be done with 3 workers on a rotational basis - 2 working each day, so that they all work 4 or 5 days and have 2 or 3 days off. 2 workers per day would recieve $50 each to milk 12 cows each and deliver the milk or process it to cheese (this needs further calculation). Therefore 2 * $50 = $100. The milk at $1 a litre delivered price would fetch almost $200 (24 * 8), leaving $100 ($200 - $100) to pay the expenses of the cow compartment (not oxen) and capital and running expenses. I hope this answers your quiery. Mark Get email at your own domain with Mail. http://personal.mail./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2001 Report Share Posted March 12, 2001 Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya! Mark wrote: > Also is a continuous loop of animals being born and > dying. You should remember that I teach Geography, so > this is all to do with population dynamics. > If 3 calves are born each year, then after 20 years > the first 3 cows will now be 20 and will be ready to > die, if not already dead. So at year 20 (average > (depends on species and breed)) the herd will mature > as the new 3 calves will replace the oldest cows, so > the population will not increase more, but stay the > same. The population should be 60 cows - 3 cows in > each year form 0 to 20. I am confused by your math. The new calves would not all be female so they could not replace the female cows. I assume therefore that there are actually six animals born of which three are female. Also, since your three cows are milking for four years and the heifers are generally not bred until they are 3 years old, how can you add 3 calves each year? I would like to see a a spreadsheet showing the actual development of the herd over time. I made my own (see attached). By my calculation, based on the following: a) Start with 3 cows (3 years old), 2 heifers, 1 bull calf, 1 bull b) Breed heifers when they are 3 years old c) Breed milking cows every 5th year (4 year lactation) d) retire cows after 12 years e) cows die after 20 years I end up with, after 20 years: 7 MILKers 1 Heifers 3 retired cows 3 deceased cows 2 Bull 3 Bull calf 6 Oxen 1 retired ox 1 Deceased bull Total 27 animals, of which 23 are living The maximum number of milkers is 9 in year 12 just before the original 3 retire. It takes about 40 years in this model to bring the herd strength to 21 milkers out of 63 total animals 21Milking cows 8 Heifers 1Bulls 6 Bull calves 23 Oxen 4 Retired cows and bulls 63 TOtal Of course not all cows and bulls will live this long and some may live longer, but I believe this is a workable spreadsheet to calculate herd growth. I would like to have some experts look at it. Also, this spreadsheet assumes all cows are bred whenever they are capable of conceiving. As such there will be unlimited growth of the herd, which starts to grow exponentially at a certain point. Therefore, some limits to breeding must be put into the model for it to be truly workable. This would depend on the optimum herd size. Your servant, Pancaratna das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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