Guest guest Posted February 23, 2001 Report Share Posted February 23, 2001 So, some thoughts from the Devil's Advocate. He says he would like to be the first farm-animal-protection millionaire this side of Kali Yuga. Anything wrong with that? It may not be pure devotional service, indeed he may not even be following all the regulations of the Kama Kanda, a fair bit more ignorance and passion there! Yet, if it were to pass that millions of farm animals were living under a business arrangement, where their livelihood is assured for life, and the business magnate were to accumulate large amounts of wealth from exploiting this market, then what is wrong with that? Ultimately, what is wrong is that all the resources of that person are not engaged in the complete devotion of the Lord, it is tinged with material desires. Yet, if this person were to say "in my lifetime I could not worship God, dieties, sanyasis or devotees, I could only think of this business, knowing that it would please the Lord to care for His land, His animals, His people, so I put my efforts to that, and enjoyed some of the fruits that came of it." Well, sounds like karma yoga to me with a bit of devotion behind it. The reason for this is that I find devotees on this conference have a moral prejudice against profit. I do not find that in Prabhupada. He was prejudiced against profiting from the Lord, as anything that was not fully engaged in the Lord's service was seen as profiting for material means. Yet profit for Krsna, he did a lot of that, how is it that there are so many temples and farms in so few years - from the accumulation of wealth derived by selling people Krsna. Now don't get upset because words, semantics and the inability to convey meaning clearly can often fail in what I want to convey. If Krsna said to Arjuna on the battlefield of Wall Street - "go thee and crush this present farming system with the enlightened knowledge gained from the Protection Farming System. By the accumulation of capital one must expand into all lands until your business plan becomes The Business Plan of the modern age." Now, obviously these are not his words, and Prabhupada's words were "not with the intention of profit - for self sufficiency, and if surplus then trade and accumulate the wealth that comes." But here there is a paradox - if vaisyas are meant to increase the quantity of farm animals, especially cows, and that doing this will inevitably lead to surplus, inevitably leading to profit and the accumulation of wealth, then does not working without the intention of profit relate to the mentality behind it. If it is the vaisyas and ksyatrias duty to have wealth to give in charity to the brahmanas, then it must be the mentality behind wealth accumulation that Prabhupada was talking about, as it would be impossible for varnasrama to function without the accumulation of wealth in the arms and belly. And for those people who can not yet reach the platform of lack of material (falseself-profit-based) desires, does that mean non-action. I think not, I have read not. It is said that person must act as well performing the same duty, but understanding that as ones desires are selfish (profiting over material nature) then one must live in the laws of nature and accept the responsiblity for the results from such actions. Either way the duty is to protect farm animals, and if there is no profit then there is loss. Profit leads to a stable market, loss to bankruptcy and slaughter of the animals (if not assured by other means). And how can self sufficiency (as commonly understood) be good. Self sufficiency must be seen in the light of interconnections with other centres of population, for a truly isolated system can be instable due to natural or man-made hazards. If a drought were to strike and ones natural wealth of animals and crops were lost, there must be physical wealth to aid in the process of survival. Or social capital, from past interactions, must be accumulated for people to come to help against the drought or the barbarian hoardes. At all times capital must be accumulated to assure the sustainability of the system. And how can one talk about profit when ones net assets are less than ones net liabilities. If you have a half-million dollar mortgage and owned-assets of $100,000, with an annual profit of $50,000, what sort of profit is this? There can be no real profit unless assets are greater than liabilities. The financing structures we live within only relate to profit from revenue, which upon failing to pay the financial instalments can lead to bankruptcy, therefore this is not real profit. So why not become True Capitalist for Krsna, accumulate wealth - cows, land and people working in working communities - villages, towns, small cities? I put this forward as I find it dificult to try to create a business plan with people on this conference when the underlying business principle behind my work is completely undermined by the devotees lack of desire to make a profit from a very important business. Breaking even and making a loss do not seem to be beneficial for the cows nor devotees. All arguments here are meant in the best of tastes and to offend no-one, I would love to hear your responses. Mark Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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