Guest guest Posted November 5, 1999 Report Share Posted November 5, 1999 Samba there is two varieties of vegetable rennet. One comes from a flower called golden seal the other comes from a mushroom. The rennet that comes from the stomach of a a calf that died from natural causes. To make it work the calf first had to have suckled from its mother. The stomach is removed from the calf that died of natural causes and is dried in the sun then cut up into strips about as long as one or finger length and about as wide. It is then placed in the warmed milk as you start your cheese making process. I talked to Jai patickie swami in Mayapur, (Please excuse the slaughter of the correct spelling of that fine mans name) about this very thing and he said "I see no problem using the stomach of a calf IF it died of natural causes" He also said the rest of the body had to treated with respect. But the leather could also be used. No, I don't want to start an another verbal war regarding the improper use of cattle. I'm not suggesting we go out and kill a calf to get its stomach. But if a calf who has suckled on its mother dies of natural causes we can use its body parts. Like the drum heads we have, on those neat drums we use in our ceremonies. That leather comes from some where doesn't it? I suspect that is why the actual drum head is so small. To conserve a scares commodity! If you buy organic rennet it will work. Interesting point, almost all cheese made in the USA is now made with organic rennet, because it is can be measured and exact quants and exact quality can be assured! Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 1999 Report Share Posted November 5, 1999 Dear Carol; I find the spelling of Srila Jayapataka Swami's name to be rather disturbing. Is it you just don't know how to spell it or you don't know the importance of Vaisnava etiquette in relationship to great souls who have taken shelter at Srila Prabhupada's feet. If you just don't know how to spell it then I guess it is just a mistake. I hope you can clarify this important spiritual point. Ys Dvibhuja Das DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com <DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com> COM: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Practical Varnasrama <Practical.Varnasrama (AT) bbt (DOT) se> Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:10 PM Re: Rennet >[Text 2755916 from COM] > >Samba there is two varieties of vegetable rennet. One comes from a flower >called golden seal the other comes from a mushroom. The rennet that comes >from the stomach of a a calf that died from natural causes. To make it work >the calf first had to have suckled from its mother. The stomach is removed >from the calf that died of natural causes and is dried in the sun then cut up >into strips about as long as one or finger length and about as wide. It is >then placed in the warmed milk as you start your cheese making process. I >talked to Jai patickie swami in Mayapur, (Please excuse the slaughter of the >correct spelling of that fine mans name) about this very thing and he said "I >see no problem using the stomach of a calf IF it died of natural causes" He >also said the rest of the body had to treated with respect. But the leather >could also be used. No, I don't want to start an another verbal war >regarding the improper use of cattle. I'm not suggesting we go out and kill >a calf to get its stomach. But if a calf who has suckled on its mother dies >of natural causes we can use its body parts. Like the drum heads we have, on >those neat drums we use in our ceremonies. That leather comes from some >where doesn't it? I suspect that is why the actual drum head is so small. >To conserve a scares commodity! > If you buy organic rennet it will work. Interesting point, almost all >cheese made in the USA is now made with organic rennet, because it is can be >measured and exact quants and exact quality can be assured! >Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 1999 Report Share Posted November 6, 1999 > > If you buy organic rennet it will work. Interesting point, almost all > cheese made in the USA is now made with organic rennet, because it is can be > measured and exact quants and exact quality can be assured! > Carol It's cheaper, which the major reason Americans do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 1999 Report Share Posted November 7, 1999 And don't forget the all-important American business ingredient: Vegetable rennet is cheaper! > > DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com [DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com] > Re: Rennet > >If you buy organic rennet it will work. Interesting point, almost all cheese made in the USA is now made with organic rennet, because it is can be measured and exact quants and exact quality can be assured! > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 1999 Report Share Posted November 7, 1999 Hare Krishna, You've got to be kidding. You didn't spell it correctly either. You used the roman alphabet--you should have used Sanskrit or Bengali! Or if you can't do that, at least use the diacritics. Never mind that you don't have the right fonts, or that even if you did, virtually none of us could read it anyway. While we're on the subject, I know plenty of devotees who've been in the movement 25+ years and still can't even come close to pronouncing Sanskrit and Bengali names. Also, I'll bet you chant Krishna's name with an American accent. I hope Krishna doesn't hold that against you at the time of death! In brief, you owe the young lady an apology. Your servant, Sri Rama das [srirama (AT) bbt (DOT) se], or [srirama (AT) reachme (DOT) net] [http://www.web-construct.net/creditcard.html] > > Martin [laksmi (AT) datastar (DOT) net] > Friday, November 05, 1999 6:39 AM > DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com; COM: Cow (Protection and related issues); COM: > Practical Varnasrama > Re: Rennet > > > [Text 2756755 from COM] > > Dear Carol; > > I find the spelling of Srila Jayapataka Swami's name to be rather > disturbing. Is it you just don't know how to spell it or you > don't know the > importance of Vaisnava etiquette in relationship to great souls who have > taken shelter at Srila Prabhupada's feet. If you just don't know how to > spell it then I guess it is just a mistake. I hope you can clarify this > important spiritual point. > > Ys > Dvibhuja Das > > DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com <DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com> > COM: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Practical > Varnasrama <Practical.Varnasrama (AT) bbt (DOT) se> > Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:10 PM > Re: Rennet > > > >[Text 2755916 from COM] > > > >Samba there is two varieties of vegetable rennet. One comes > from a flower > >called golden seal the other comes from a mushroom. The rennet > that comes > >from the stomach of a a calf that died from natural causes. To make it > work > >the calf first had to have suckled from its mother. The stomach > is removed > >from the calf that died of natural causes and is dried in the > sun then cut > up > >into strips about as long as one or finger length and about as > wide. It is > >then placed in the warmed milk as you start your cheese making > process. I > >talked to Jai patickie swami in Mayapur, (Please excuse the slaughter of > the > >correct spelling of that fine mans name) about this very thing > and he said > "I > >see no problem using the stomach of a calf IF it died of natural > causes" He > >also said the rest of the body had to treated with respect. But the > leather > >could also be used. No, I don't want to start an another verbal war > >regarding the improper use of cattle. I'm not suggesting we go out and > kill > >a calf to get its stomach. But if a calf who has suckled on its mother > dies > >of natural causes we can use its body parts. Like the drum > heads we have, > on > >those neat drums we use in our ceremonies. That leather comes from some > >where doesn't it? I suspect that is why the actual drum head is > so small. > >To conserve a scares commodity! > > If you buy organic rennet it will work. Interesting point, > almost all > >cheese made in the USA is now made with organic rennet, because it is can > be > >measured and exact quants and exact quality can be assured! > >Carol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 1999 Report Share Posted November 7, 1999 Srirama Prabhu; PAMHO AGTSP I probably was too heavy with mother carol but I truly did think she was just intentionally maligning the name. I did ask her if she just didn't know how to spell it, but I couldn't imagine someone who had been to India, etc not knowing how to get closer. At any rate I thought it would be benificial to understand the importance of not calling him a fine man etc. Maybe too heavy though and I stand corrected. I hope she wan't offended. She usually takes it all in stride, so perhaps this won't be too much for mother carol. YS Dvibhuja das COM: Srirama (das) ACBSP <Srirama.ACBSP (AT) bbt (DOT) se> laksmi (AT) datastar (DOT) net <laksmi (AT) datastar (DOT) net>; DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com <DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com>; COM: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Practical Varnasrama <Practical.Varnasrama (AT) bbt (DOT) se> Saturday, November 06, 1999 5:10 PM RE: Rennet >[Text 2760090 from COM] > >Hare Krishna, > > You've got to be kidding. You didn't spell it correctly either. You used >the roman alphabet--you should have used Sanskrit or Bengali! Or if you >can't do that, at least use the diacritics. Never mind that you don't have >the right fonts, or that even if you did, virtually none of us could read it >anyway. > > While we're on the subject, I know plenty of devotees who've been in the >movement 25+ years and still can't even come close to pronouncing Sanskrit >and Bengali names. Also, I'll bet you chant Krishna's name with an American >accent. I hope Krishna doesn't hold that against you at the time of death! > > In brief, you owe the young lady an apology. > >Your servant, >Sri Rama das > >[srirama (AT) bbt (DOT) se], or >[srirama (AT) reachme (DOT) net] >[http://www.web-construct.net/creditcard.html] > > >> >> Martin [laksmi (AT) datastar (DOT) net] >> Friday, November 05, 1999 6:39 AM >> DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com; COM: Cow (Protection and related issues); COM: >> Practical Varnasrama >> Re: Rennet >> >> >> [Text 2756755 from COM] >> >> Dear Carol; >> >> I find the spelling of Srila Jayapataka Swami's name to be rather >> disturbing. Is it you just don't know how to spell it or you >> don't know the >> importance of Vaisnava etiquette in relationship to great souls who have >> taken shelter at Srila Prabhupada's feet. If you just don't know how to >> spell it then I guess it is just a mistake. I hope you can clarify this >> important spiritual point. >> >> Ys >> Dvibhuja Das >> >> DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com <DGilsen (AT) aol (DOT) com> >> COM: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) bbt (DOT) se>; COM: Practical >> Varnasrama <Practical.Varnasrama (AT) bbt (DOT) se> >> Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:10 PM >> Re: Rennet >> >> >> >[Text 2755916 from COM] >> > >> >Samba there is two varieties of vegetable rennet. One comes >> from a flower >> >called golden seal the other comes from a mushroom. The rennet >> that comes >> >from the stomach of a a calf that died from natural causes. To make it >> work >> >the calf first had to have suckled from its mother. The stomach >> is removed >> >from the calf that died of natural causes and is dried in the >> sun then cut >> up >> >into strips about as long as one or finger length and about as >> wide. It is >> >then placed in the warmed milk as you start your cheese making >> process. I >> >talked to Jai patickie swami in Mayapur, (Please excuse the slaughter of >> the >> >correct spelling of that fine mans name) about this very thing >> and he said >> "I >> >see no problem using the stomach of a calf IF it died of natural >> causes" He >> >also said the rest of the body had to treated with respect. But the >> leather >> >could also be used. No, I don't want to start an another verbal war >> >regarding the improper use of cattle. I'm not suggesting we go out and >> kill >> >a calf to get its stomach. But if a calf who has suckled on its mother >> dies >> >of natural causes we can use its body parts. Like the drum >> heads we have, >> on >> >those neat drums we use in our ceremonies. That leather comes from some >> >where doesn't it? I suspect that is why the actual drum head is >> so small. >> >To conserve a scares commodity! >> > If you buy organic rennet it will work. Interesting point, >> almost all >> >cheese made in the USA is now made with organic rennet, because it is can >> be >> >measured and exact quants and exact quality can be assured! >> >Carol >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 1999 Report Share Posted November 8, 1999 Haribol Laksmi Peace brother God knows I put my foot in my mouth more often than not. I had no place where I could look up the spelling of that saintly man. ( I am still afraid to attempt to spell it after this tempest in a tea pot) . I simply can't spell English very well and Sanskrit ... well lets say most people are underwhelmed by my attempts to pronounce Sanskrit names. Many people find my attempts hilarious. No, I wasn't offended and I need to be put in my place, not that I stay there very long you understand. I am trying I am just a tad slow with names. I still can't pronounce the name of the Gita! Keep up the good work I do need all the help I can get. Perhaps one day in the distant future the good lessons you guys have been trying to teach me will sink in. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 On 05 Nov 1999, Martin wrote: > Dear Carol; > > I find the spelling of Srila Jayapataka Swami's name to be rather > disturbing. Is it you just don't know how to spell it or you don't know the > importance of Vaisnava etiquette in relationship to great souls who have > taken shelter at Srila Prabhupada's feet. If you just don't know how to > spell it then I guess it is just a mistake. I hope you can clarify this > important spiritual point. > I'm am always bewildered when devotees pick at each other. what was stated was "I talked to Jai patickie swami in Mayapur, (Please excuse the slaughter of the correct spelling of that fine mans name)" It seems to me that the devotee clearly stated she was unsure of spelling and asked for forgiveness if spelled wrong. In addition, I may be wrong but if I recall correctly, "Jayapataka" isn't an english word. Therefore any spelling that gets the pronunciation across is fine. I hope that we can learn to overlook small mistakes that others make and chant Hare Krishna. y.s. b.b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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