Prabhupada: 30 bighas of pasture for Mayapur

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The Bengali devotees here tell me a bigha is roughly a third of an acre, (1

acre = 3 bighas) (1 acre = 0.4047 hectares.)

ys, Rohita dasa

 

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Noma T. Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu>

Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Tuesday, March 27, 2001 8:42 AM

Prabhupada: 30 bighas of pasture for Mayapur

 

 

> I was reading a Prabhupada quote last night where Srila Prabhupada said

that in

> Mayapur should be 20 bighas of land for the temple and 30 bighas of lands

for

> pasture for the cows -- I'm not sure whether it was "pasture" or "grazing

> ground."

>

> Anyway, I was wondering, how many acres or hectares is s "bigha" of land?

Does

> anyone out there know?

>

> Maybe Tarakara prabhu could look up this quote -- I don't have access to

the

> VedaBase from here.

>

> your servant,

>

> Hare Krsna dasi

>

>

[Guest guest]

"Taraka (das) ACBSP (Gita Nagari, PA - USA)" wrote:

 

> > I was reading a Prabhupada quote last night where Srila Prabhupada said

> > that in Mayapur should be 20 bighas of land for the temple and 30 bighas

> > of lands for pasture for the cows -- I'm not sure whether it was "pasture"

> > or "grazing ground."

>

> > Anyway, I was wondering, how many acres or hectares is s "bigha" of land?

> > Does anyone out there know?

>

> The place where Nityananda Prabhu appeared is called Garbhavasa. There is an

> allotment of about forty-three bighas (fourteen acres) of land to continue

> the worship in a temple there. The Maharaja of Dinajapura donated twenty

> bighas of land (about six and a half acres) in this connection.

>

> >>> Ref. VedaBase => Adi 13.61

>

> Based upon these figures, a bigha equals approximately .325 acres. Thus, 30

> bighas equals approximately 9.75 acres. It should probably be noted that

> there were not very many cows in Mayapura in 1974. By the time I worked in

> the Mayapura Gosalla, (1976) we had one bull, 2 or 3 calves and with the

> cows, a total of maybe 15 or so. It's so long I don't remember exactly.

>

> > Maybe Tarakara prabhu could look up this quote -- I don't have access to

> > the VedaBase from here.

> >

> > your servant,

> > Hare Krsna dasi

>

> Dear Hare Krsna Mata:

>

> Pamho. AgtSP.

>

> There used to be a devotee living at Gita-nagari named Tarakara. Although I

> also live at Gita-nagari, I am not he. Here's the quote I think you're

> refering to:

>

> Ys,

> Taraka dasa

 

My humble apologies, Taraka Prabhu. My son Asto still mispronounces your name

from the time he visited you and Balabhadra at Prabhupada Village back in 1993

or so. (He's graduating from high school this spring.) But, even though he

mispronounces your name -- he remembers you all fondly! He even bought a hand

pump to water our garden because he liked the pump you set up for Balabhadra's

oxen. However, based on his mispronounciation, I also mispronounce your name.

I will be more careful in the future.

 

The quote you provide below is beautiful. Next question: How many pounds or

kilos in the "mound" of grain Prabhupada refers to below?

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi

 

 

> Prabhupada: Devotional activities, either he leaves from home or not leaves,

> that doesn't matter. It must continue from the very beginning. For the

> management of affairs, we require to divide. Because there are different

> classes of brain, so those who have very intellectual brain, they should

> become brahmanas. Those who are fit for management and protection, they

> should be trained as ksatriya. And those who are fit for producing food,

> taking care of the cows, they should be trained as vaisya. And the balance,

> they're all sudras. This is the division. You... Everywhere you'll find this

> division, natural. One class of men, very intelligent. One class of men,

> very strong, good brain for management, administration. (aside) Jaya. One

> class of men, fit for tilling the ground, field, and produce food, take care

> of the cows. And the balance, sudra. That's all. So in our society, this

> division should be there. The most intelligent class of men, they should be

> engaged in preaching, reading books and instructing, taking care of Deity

> worship, temple, and another class should be strong managers, that things

> are going on nicely. Everyone is engaged, not that eating and sleeping.

> Everyone must be engaged, employed. So, so if one is very much adapted for

> eating and sleeping, he should be engaged with plows. You see. He must be

> activity. Otherwise, there must be dysentery, eating and sleeping. He cannot

> digest. Yes. So in this way, our society should be managed. Not that "Give

> me second initiation, a sacred thread." And after getting it, business

> finished: "Now I'm liberated. Let me eat and sleep." This should be stopped.

> We have got fifty bighas of land, and I have calculated in Mayapura, setting

> aside twenty bighas for the temple and grazing ground for the cows, thirty

> bighas of land. The production should be three hundred mounds of grains. And

> three hundred mounds of grain, I have calculated. How much you can...?

> Bhagavan: Fifteen hundred.

> Prabhupada: No. According to our present calculated, about 180 mounds. So

> there should be 120 mounds excess of grain. Instead of excess, they want ten

> thousand rupees for maintenance. This is... This management is going on.

> These things were not discussed in GBC? So what kind of discussion was

> there? Simply talking? No practical? And the estimate of budget was

> presented for ten thousand rupees per month. And... And when it was

> scrutinizingly studied, immediately it came down to six thousand. So what

> kind of budget? So management should be in that way, that nobody is sitting

> idly. Automatically he'll fall sick. Sickness means idleness. Or excess

> eating, sleeping. No excess, no less. Yuktahara-viharasya yogo bhavati

> duhkha-ha. Yukta. Yukta means actually what you need. (aside:) Hare Krsna.

> So everywhere, in each center, this system should be introduced, and there

> must be practical application of the varnasrama. At the same time, this

> program of devotional service. Then it will go on very nicely.

>

> >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- March 12, 1974, Vrndavana

 

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> Next question: How many

> pounds or kilos in the "mound" of grain Prabhupada refers to below?

 

Pamho. AgtSP.

 

I think this quote answers your question nicely. One mound equals eighty-two

pounds. I am posting more of this same conversation as the Cow Quote Du Jour

# 56.

 

Ys,

Taraka dasa

 

 

Prabhupada: For livelihood, one has to work. That is material world. So you

work. And what is that work? If one, one works for three months on the

field, he can get his whole years' food. That is economically fact. How many

mounds of grains we can produce per acre? Do you know that? We know, in our

Indian calculation, we can produce at least ten mounds of grain per bigha.

So if one has got ten bighas of land, he can produce hundred mounds of

grains. So how much you can eat daily. Just compute it. Utmost two pounds.

Utmost. So if you eat two pounds grains per day. In a month, sixty pounds.

And eighty-two pounds makes one mound. You are getting one thousand mounds.

One thousand mounds. Then? Ten bighas of land...

Bhagavan: One hundred mounds.

Prabhupada: One hundred.

Guru Gauranga: Mounds.

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation with Anna Conan Doyle,

daughter-in-law of famous author, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle -- August 10, 1973,

Paris

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Correction:

After talking to an more educated Bengali he has told me that six feet make

a raen and twenty raen make up one side of a bigha. So a bigha is 180 feet,

squared or 32,400 sqft. and acre is 43,560 sqft.

 

100 square metres times 100 equal one hectare (107,639.0 square feet) or

3.32 bighas make one hectare or 2.47 acres.

 

972,000 sqft = 30 bighas or 22.3 acres. 10 bighas is 7.44 acres

82 x 1000 divided by 7.44 or they can get yield of 11,021.5 pounds of wheat

per acre in Mayapur, weather permitting.

 

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Taraka (das) ACBSP (Gita Nagari, PA - USA) <Taraka.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Noma T. Petroff <npetroff (AT) bowdoin (DOT) edu>; Cow (Protection and related

issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net>

Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:45 PM

Re: Prabhupada: 30 bighas of pasture for Mayapur

 

 

> > Next question: How many

> > pounds or kilos in the "mound" of grain Prabhupada refers to below?

>

> Pamho. AgtSP.

>

> I think this quote answers your question nicely. One mound equals

eighty-two

> pounds. I am posting more of this same conversation as the Cow Quote Du

Jour

> # 56.

>

> Ys,

> Taraka dasa

>

>

> Prabhupada: For livelihood, one has to work. That is material world. So

you

> work. And what is that work? If one, one works for three months on the

> field, he can get his whole years' food. That is economically fact. How

many

> mounds of grains we can produce per acre? Do you know that? We know, in

our

> Indian calculation, we can produce at least ten mounds of grain per bigha.

> So if one has got ten bighas of land, he can produce hundred mounds of

> grains. So how much you can eat daily. Just compute it. Utmost two pounds.

> Utmost. So if you eat two pounds grains per day. In a month, sixty pounds.

> And eighty-two pounds makes one mound. You are getting one thousand

mounds.

> One thousand mounds. Then? Ten bighas of land...

> Bhagavan: One hundred mounds.

> Prabhupada: One hundred.

> Guru Gauranga: Mounds.

>

> >>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation with Anna Conan Doyle,

> daughter-in-law of famous author, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle -- August 10,

1973,

> Paris

>

[Guest guest]

Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya!

 

CUrrently, most calculations of a bigha in West Bengal are simply 1/3 acre.

 

Your servant,

Pancaratna das

[Guest guest]

Pancaratna ACBSP wrote:

 

> Dandavad. Prabhupada kijaya!

>

> CUrrently, most calculations of a bigha in West Bengal are simply 1/3 acre.

>

> Your servant,

> Pancaratna das

 

Very good. Next question: How many bighas of pasture does the Sridham Mayapur

Project actually contain?

 

Also, I heard there were some plans to increase the pasturage. Is that true?

How much pasture would be added?

 

 

your servant,

 

Hare Krsna dasi