Guest guest Posted February 2, 2001 Report Share Posted February 2, 2001 Nityananda: We can go this way, here. This is all our machinery here. Prabhupada: Hm. So already some machine idle. You had to spend so much, but they are lying idle. That is not good. That is the defect of machine. If you cannot ply it, then it is dead loss. Brahmananda: If you cannot what? Prabhupada: It is dead loss if you cannot work with the machine. Brahmananda: Yes, yes. Prabhupada: But when you go to purchase you have to pay lots of money. Now they will be rusty with water and gradually useless. How much money you have invested? Nityananda: Thousands. Prabhupada: Just see. This is the defect of machine. If you cannot utilize it, then it is dead loss. Brahmananda: Where are the tractors kept? Nityananda: One's at the house, and one's in the field. Prabhupada: So they have to be utilized or rejected, these machines? Nityananda: Yes, they all have a purpose. We use them from time to time. Prabhupada: But now they are kept open and the... Nityananda: Well, we are building a shed to keep them out of the rain. Prabhupada: In the meantime it will be finished. By the time you finish your shed, it is finished. Sastre sastre dal phariyaga.(?) "Some women were dressing to go to a fair, and when they were dressed, the fair was finished." (laughter) Utilize them. Otherwise, while they are in working order, sell them. Don't keep in that way, neglected way. Either utilize it or sell it at any cost. Otherwise they are useless. Devotee: Srila Prabhupada? A materialist or someone who wouldn't know, he may say that when the bull is not plowing, all he is doing is eating. You have to pay money to feed him grain or to grow grain to feed the bull. Prabhupada: They will grow, and they will eat. Rather, they will help you for your eating. The father also eats, but he maintains the family. Therefore the bull is considered as father and the cow as mother. Mother gives milk, and the bull grows food grains for man. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu first challenged that Kazi that "What is your religion, that you eat your father and mother?" Both the bulls and the cows are important because the bull will produce food grain and the cow will give supply milk. They should be utilized properly. That is human intelligence. This is filling up with paddy or...? No? Nityananda: With food for the cows. This one has forage or fodder, and that one has grain. Prabhupada: So everything is for the animals. Nothing for the man? Nityananda: The cows give us milk. Prabhupada: That's all? And you are not growing any food grains? Why? Nityananda: Er... We've been trying to establish self-sufficient cow protection program first, to grow our own food for the cows. Brahmananda: There is no land available for growing rice or wheat? Nityananda: Yes, but the number of devotees we have to do it... Brahmananda: But you have so many machines. Prabhupada: All these machines require oiling and keeping nicely. Otherwise it will spoil. Devotees in distance: All glories to Srila Prabhupada! Prabhupada: Jaya. Hare Krsna. They are starting? Brahmananda: They are starting back. Nityananda: Down the road we have fifteen acres of sorghum, grain for the cows. Prabhupada: And everything for the cows, but what for the man? They will give everything for cows because they will eat cows, other farmers. But you utilize the animals for growing your food. Brahmananda: The idea is we should maintain the animals, but then the animals should provide foodstuffs for the men. Prabhupada: Yes. Brahmananda: And that way there is cooperation. Prabhupada: Yes. The animals, bulls, should have helped... instead of that machine. Then it is properly utilized. And others, they cannot utilize these animals. Therefore, what they will do? Naturally they will send to slaughterhouse. But we are not going to send to the slaughterhouse. Then what we will do? They must be utilized. Otherwise simply for growing food that the cows and bulls we engage ourself? You are already feeling burden because there are so many bull calves. You were asking me, "What we shall do with so many bulls?" Nityananda: Well, when they grow up we will train them as oxen. Prabhupada: No, what the oxen will do? Nityananda: Plow the fields. Prabhupada: Yes. That is wanted. Transport, plowing fields. That is wanted. And unless our men are trained up, Krsna conscious, they will think, "What is the use of taking care of the plows (cows)? Better go to the city, earn money and eat them." >>> Ref. VedaBase => NEW ORLEANS, AUGUST 1, 1975 WALK AROUND NEW TALAVANA FARM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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