Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 to carry on the conversation: >But again, please > don't > say that our leaders, especially the GBC, are indifferent to cow protection. They WERE indifferent for years and years and years to cow protection and citizen protection (same thing actually). Does not such indifference carry a price? At least an intelligent review by a citizen's board to assess qualifications of "leaders" is in order. ........ >But, fair enough. The date is marked in my book! And what shall we do if >they >once again neglect the demands of the citizens, i.e., cows and people? >Shall their be retribution for the citizens? Why not give someone else a chance. WHat is this always GBC, only GBC can do this or that. It is plain to see they have far more important things than worrying about animals to the degree we might want them to. If VAD is to be attempted then there are plenty of others who have no engagement whatsoever. Note: a lot of the GBC are sannyasis - should they be so involved with the affairs of the householders. I think not. Please refer to Srila Prabhupada's instructions on the duties of the GBC. We have no structure beyond GBC trying to run everything - this leads to disaster. We have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 Rohita dasa > > Our GBC is now. Bir Krishna and due to his many responsibilities he is unable to come at all this year. This to me means he has not thought about (at least he has not expressed) these four visits - I say he has not thought, because there is no mention of a monitor coming. Janesvara das: Aw gee, surprise?! surprise?! Comment: It is said do not be surprized at who goes be surprized by who stays. I am saying this because as Vaisnavas we should avoid this kind of reply. Lord Krsna is arranging something; he is doing it this way for some reason. It would be better if we sent a personal invitation asking him to come (or asking any GBC to come) as Mother Hare Krsna Devi has suggested. There is one more thing we can do. We can pray, for Krishna to curb our tongues and arrange that things should be corrected according to his desire. Hare Krsna dasi comments: > > Well, I am an admirer of Bir Krishna Maharaja. He's the only GBC I've seen behind a team of oxen (Balabhadra's). Janesvara das: > I wouldn't judge a ksatriya by this. I do not believe it is one of the qualities Krsna mentions in Bg. for a ksatriya. Or maybe the GBC aren't ksatriyas? Why are they responsible for management then? Comment: The GBC is not a group of Ksatriyas as you seeming think they should be. This is a unique time and circumstance, true varnasrama; daiva varnasrama is not existent on this planet. That is the duty that Srila Prabhupada has passed on to his followers. But before we should concern ourselves with how they are organized (the GBC) it is more important for our spiritual life to worry about how much we are following. Have you come to Mangala arotik for the last 25 years (or however long any of you had to opportunity)? Have you faithfully chanted the prescribed number of rounds - DAILY … there can be no excuse if you have not been or done you are no better than a dead body if you have not. To continue in the same vein, when was the last time you milked a cow, hooked up the team or brought hay and to a cow that is unable. When was the last time you turned on that set or gone off to town to get some ice cream, how much are you a cent per cent devotee? Have you become so complacent you are unable to distinguish which of the preceding actions are not done in the mood of Attaining the Supreme? Hare Krsna dasi comments: > >Nevertheless, if he neglects to make even one single visit to New Talavana, he is breaking Krsna's law. Comment: The example is there, Rama raja has given. Hare Krsna dasi comments: > > Srila Prabhupada states in the First Canto of the Bhagavatam that cow protection and brahminical culture are the "two pillars of spiritual progress." How can ISKCON make spiritual progress if the head of the GBC only has one pillar? Comment: Each of us is responsible to see that those pillars are there, better we should ask how can we help them meet their commitment. We should act as servant. Instead so many are verbally attacking (thank Krsna it is not more) and some are creating situations that take their attention away from their real GBC duties. If allowed to make amends they may do. Bir Krsna Maharaja can not come, you have not really asked why? He has to deal with Rttviks, and other similar problems all politically (artificial) created because someone thinks they deserve more than what Krsna has allotted them - I pray that none of you have created problems to deviate the GBC from his primary functions. He has to deal with emergencies, thoughtlessly created by those in the conditioned mode of life. If he does not deal with them there would be even greater disturbances in our society. So do not be a part of the problem. Hare Krsna dasi comments: > > I'm sure he will do this if he is properly approached. I'm sure he will want to set a good example. Janesvara das: > I wouldn't hold your breath, you may be holding it for another 25 years. Comment: That is no concern of mine, just to the best of my limited ability I have to facilitate, whatever it takes to accomplish the intended goal, in this case the participation of the GBC in cow culture. Now if you will excuse me I have to write a lettre to my GBC and offer my obeisances and render whatever service is given. Ys, Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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