Guest guest Posted June 19, 1999 Report Share Posted June 19, 1999 On 18 Jun 1999, Jitakrodha das wrote: On one of the other conferences there was a mention of a multilevel marketing company being offered to devotees. This particular company uses cow slaughter by products as well as selling beef products. I am not looking for a debate on the company but I wanted to see what the philosophical understanding is. Can a devotee be engaged in a self employment situation, where people are ordering products containing beef and other slaughter products, direct from a company and then the company send the devotee a commission check. That is if the devotee gives that profit to the service to Krsna is it purified? Comment: When I was at the Bridesville farm in British Columbia (Canada) there was a disease quarantine area. Within that area, all cows tested for the disease (blood test - viral) any animals having the disease were bought from the farmer. Based on the carcass value (evaluated by livestock inspector from meat industry), show value (livestock judge) and physical conformation (vet). The animals testing positive were removed to government land, killed and carcass burnt. It was the only means they knew of at that time to control the disease. It was 99% fatal within 48 hours for sheep; cows got high fever and remained carrier for life. We asked Srila Prabhupada by telephone (he was in New Vrndavan) what to do, his reply was. 1. They are government man, do not interfere with their work. 2. They are also demons, watch to see that they do not take advantage. 3. Refuse their offer of reimbursement, it will bind you to their karma. My understanding was that this is not a bonafide way for a devotee to earn a living. It was my understanding that one who kills the cow, prepares or serves the meat, sells the meat incurs karma. Would this also apply to only be involved by taking the profits? Comment: That is my understanding also. Ys, Rohita dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 1999 Report Share Posted June 20, 1999 Dear Prabhus: Pamho. Agtsp. Perhaps this will help. I seem to recall Srila Prabhupada mentioning this elsewhere but I can't find it at the moment. As I recall that description includes he who transports the meat, but my memory is particularly faulty. Here, however, are direct quotes from Sastra: SB 1.7.37 TRANSLATION A cruel and wretched person who maintains his existence at the cost of others’ lives deserves to be killed for his own well-being, otherwise he will go down by his own actions. Srila Prabhupada writes in the purport: ...According to Manu, the great author of civic codes and religious principles, even the killer of an animal is to be considered a murderer because animal food is never meant for the civilized man, whose prime duty is to prepare himself for going back to Godhead. He says that in the act of killing an animal, there is a regular conspiracy by the party of sinners, and all of them are liable to be punished as murderers exactly like a party of conspirators who kill a human being combinedly. He who gives permission, he who kills the animal, he who sells the slaughtered animal, he who cooks the animal, he who administers distribution of the foodstuff, and at last he who eats such cooked animal food are all murderers, and all of them are liable to be punished by the laws of nature... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 1999 Report Share Posted June 20, 1999 Dear Jitakrodha prabhu: Pamho. Agtsp. The more I think about it, the more I begin to see the extreme gravity of this issue. It is essential that every devotee have a thorough understanding of this. I have also seen instances of devotees making dreadful mistakes for the sake of money. It is very good that you have raised this question. I hope that you will pass along some of the quotes concerning this business. I should also mention that Srila Prabhupada did say that sometimes devotees could accept employment of such an undesirable nature when there was no alternative. That if it was a question of starving, you accept what work you can get. This I read recently but sorry I don't have the quote. Here are some others that are pertinent: >From the purport to SB 4.25.8: ...When animals are killed in a slaughterhouse, six people connected with the killing are responsible for the murder. The person who gives permission for the killing, the person who kills, the person who helps, the person who purchases the meat, the person who cooks the flesh and the person who eats it, all become entangled in the killing... >From a lecture on SB 5.5.1-2, Stockholm, September 7, 1973: ...Not only you directly make all these thing then you are condemned to go to the hellish condition; if you associate with such person, then also you’ll be liable. If you associate. Just like some rascals they say, “Yes, we are eating meat, but we are not directly killing. We purchase.” They think that “Let me enjoy meat-eating. Those who are killing in the slaughterhouse, they will be responsible. I am free.” No. Because you are associating with such persons, according to Manu-samhita when an animal is killed, eight persons become condemned with murdering charges. Eight persons. One who kills, one who orders, one who purchases, one who cooks, one who eats—so many. That is the law. Just like one man is murdered. That murdering is committed by one man, but if has got many associates who has induced him, who has supplied him the weapon, or giving, so many assisted—all of them are arrested. This is the law... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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