Allegations of Cow Slaughter at iskcon Murari Sevaka

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Dear

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

The purpose of my writing is to inform you of discussions that have occurred

recently in the

"Topical Discussions" conference. The texts were sent by a Dhyanakunda d.d.

(KKD) onto the

conference. The email following this will contain the specific references and

you can judge for

yourself first hand if I am exaggerating.

DHYANAKUNDA D.D.:

In her statements Dh.dd attempts to point out discrepancies in Srila Prabhupada

books and at one

point states that 'Another things that bothers me is that Srila Prabhupada is

always so sure

of himself. He is fully confident in his own judgment' or 'Very strong, super

simple black-and-

white general statements. Where ordinary people would soften their statements

by saying, "as far

as I know,I am convinced that,to some degree,in this respect,from

my experience,"

"most probably,at present it looks like..." etc., Srila Prabhupada passes

absolute judgements,

and he is not even consistent in them.' Plus "I am ready to believe the source

of his certainty is

direct link with Krsna's absolute knowledge, *if* it can be proven he was

absolutely right

each time." The above comments were made in a public COM forum and were all

contained in

one submission. There are other writings from her in the same conference along

the same line.

To repeat, the questionable statements will follow this email.

MAHANANDA DASA:

Mahananda Prabhu, participating in the same conference and while defending

Srila Prabhupada's

position of acarya, is thrown off the conference by Madhusudani Radha, the

conference's

moderator for making what she perceives as threats towards Dh.dd. In reading

his submission, I

cannot see any threat but rather a whole hearted defense of Srila Prabhupada.

Please form your

own opinion by reading the following email transmission.

MADHUSUDANI RADHA (JPS):

In my opinion, her reasoning to exclude Mahananda Prabhu from the conference is

very shallow

and seems one-sided. On another COM conference (VAST), which was also very

critical of Srila

Prabhupada, it was described that some of Prabhupada's opinions (in relation to

women) could

be a result of conditioning he received at Scottish Churches College, etc. Many

controversial

points were made. The participants of the VAST conference are some of the

well-educated

individuals in the movement. A selection of their texts can be forwarded to you

if you haven't

already seen them. At this time, Madhusudani Radha suggested the footnoting of

the books. She

has also publicly proposed homosexual unions within the movement and to my

experience is

constantly trying to water down both the philosophy and lifestyle of Krsna

consciousness.

But now, I think there may be something more to this attack by Mad. Radha and

Dhy. d.d. and it

is so serious that it will make the discussion about the position of guru and

the poisoning of Srila

Prabhupada look like child's play.

Previously, I have had a strong debate on the varnasrama conference with Mad.

Radha and Hare

Krsna dasi. It was in regards to the footnoting of Srila Prabhupada's books.

Mad. Radha and

H.K.d.d., on the varnasrama conference, repeated the idea of footnoting Srila

Prabhupada's

books. I took them to task on the issue and a heated debate resulted. They want

to footnote

Prabhupada's books in respect to his many statements in regards to women and

their role in a

varnasrama society. Basically, Mad. Radha backed out with very little

resistance and H.K.d.d.

continued her support saying that Jayadvaita Swami is qualified to footnote

Prabhupada's books.

The difficulty these two matajis experienced in our debate and others is that

Srila Prabhupada's

books were continually used as an authority to defeat their points. In the end,

Mad. Radha

stopped fighting for her points and they finished the debate by calling names.

But more recently,

she expressed them once again on the Topical Discussion conference, i.e. that

it is acceptable to

have the books footnoted and again they volunteer Jayadvaita Swami. (By the

way, I have

written to J. Sw. and he wants nothing to do with the exercise and both these

matajis are aware

of this). When pushed to discuss the issue, she demanded that the discussion be

done privately.

Why should changing Prabhupada's books be discussed privately?

A more recent example of weakness in her character, is that she has now taken

the "Topical

Discussions" conference private. Why are discussions that are topical being

brought into a

private forum. The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines topical as: "referring to

the topics of the

day or place: of local or temporary interest." And when Mahananda dasa stands

up for Srila

Prabhupada's absolute position in the movement, he is censored and deported

from the

conference. It is understandable that some conferences require privacy such as

the GBC

conference(s) or even the Astrology conference since participation depends on

particular levels

of education and ability. But Topical Discussions? The timing of it is also

peculiar since it was

taken off the air immediately after the controversial comments were made.

With these experiences in mind, it is very plausible that those individuals who

are focused on

altering the Vedic conclusion on women's role in society, i.e. the conclusion

as presented by

Srila Prabhupada, are now making a direct attack on Srila Prabhupada himself in

a misguided

attempt to undermine faith in him as the founder/acarya of the movement and as

an absolute

authority.

Logically, if they are bent on establishing a liberal and modern concept of

femininity in

ISKCON, then this must be done. Otherwise, they will be constantly defeated by

devotees of

Srila Prabhupada quoting from sastra which to date has been their experience.

They must destroy

both, i.e. the authority of guru and sastra. This in effect will destroy the

movement. Srila

Prabhupada's words are all that we have to go on.

I agree that these are extreme allegations. However, from my vantage point, I

have a difficult

time coming to another conclusion. Please review the following quotes with the

history described

above in mind.

My prayer is that you can help keep Srila Prabhupada at the center of the

movement and curtail

the aparadhas being committed by the above-mentioned individuals for their own

spiritual well-

being and the well-being of the movement itself.

Respectfully,

Vyapaka dasa

vyapaka (AT) accel (DOT) net