Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 Hello, Syam and Pancaratna give the following data and comments: Maypur – Oxen ___0.36 acres/day @ Rs. 450. Tractors___13 acres/day @ Rs. 180 UK – Oxen___1 acre/day @ ?. Tractors___? Questions asked: Regarding the costs of tractor ploughing in mayapur land. Does that figure take into account purchase price, maintenance, loss of value etc. Is the cost of tractors subsidised in some way? UK comparisons = conventional wheat grain sells at 85 pounds sterling per tonne, organic wheat grain sells for about 200 pounds per tonne, ox-powered would have to be valued at 300 pounds sterling per tonne. In Mayapur they are breeding 60 cows per year, which means over 20 years there will probably be about 600 male oxen of which about 400 will be workable. How does mayapur plan to utilise all these oxen if the land is being farmed by tractors?. How much difference in the price of rice would there be if the food is produced by tractors or produced by working oxen. Has such an analysis been done? So, various points here can be analysed. The lack of data is really restrictive to analyse the above data, both in terms of quantity of data and quality. Still, the questions are necessary to be answered to have a more complete analysis. My points: Quantity of land ploughed per day is not necessarily the important quality in the desicion process here. This depends a lot on what type of land use will be in operation and the ploughing needs at certain times and in certain conditions. An ideal cenario for oxen is within an agroforest plantation, taking advantage of cropping between trees for the first 5 years before the trees shade out the crops too much. Diagram below: trees O O O O O O crops trees O O O O O crops trees O O O O O O crops trees O O O O O For 5 years oxen can plough between the trees and crops can be intensively managed to produce high yielding crops, it could be also grains. Then, after 5-7 years, the end result is an orchard or home garden (permacultural) with silvo-pastoral undergrowth, meaning the cows can graze underneath the trees. Tractors would not be suited to such an arrangement, except the type used in Japan on their paddy fields which are very small and mobile. So, the above situation places the quality of the work, in terms of design, above the quantity of land ploughed. Land ploughed, cost of ploughing system - oxen or tractors, and labour needs are just 3 variables that fit into a more complex system of inputs and processes that yeild varied outputs. If the system is very simple like extensive grain production in the American Mid-West or on the Argentine Pampas then tractors can easily beat oxen. If the system is more diverse and complex then the tractor can loose competitive advantage. If one takes high-value products like medicinal herbs the cost of land ploughing is minimal to the product, with lower-value products like grains ploughing is a greater cost per product produced. To make comparisons it is necessary to see the needs of two competing systems - one simple and one complex. To take the agroforest/home garden example, as that is the cornocapia environment envisioned, then oxen have serious advantages to tractors. What I would need, and have looked at, is a map of the two systems with land planning for the future of how to turn say a 1000 hectare grassland into a mixed agroforest with cultivation between trees at various stages of development. I think in this situation the direct competitive advantage of tractors would be seriously diminished to the point where substituting tractors with oxen would not effect the cost structure greatly, or it may even be a positive substitution. On top of that, the needs to the system are to use oxen and added advantages both seen and unseen need to be measured. One could be the effect of tourism to the farm for example, enhanced by an active forestation and ox-power. So to conclude, it is not just simple quantity comparisons between oxen and tractor that matter, they are in fact quite misleading at times. What is needed is a compaison between two very different systyems, which involves measuring (quantifying) highly comlex qualities. So, more than a quantitive comparison a qualitative comparison would need to be shown. I still think it is possible to find an evening out of the relationship between oxen and tractors if the complexities of two very different systems are studied. Yours, Mark __________ Get your free @.co.uk address at http://mail..co.uk or your free @.ie address at http://mail..ie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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