Ayanamsa issues - misc

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And you, dear Jyotishi have had the humility of announcing to this

august forum, bristling with jyotishis who have had it all figured

out, based on their writings and publications and associations with

The High and Mighty, The Veritable Hoi Poloi as they say, and so on,

not to mention 'claimed' years of successful predictions, trying to

tell us the cogniscentii <;-) that it can all be done just with the

transits? The reality that exists above us, just for the looking?

 

You do know what they teach one in first aid, I hope? Never ask an

older person to look up too sharply! For it causes a phenomenon

called TAO (www.google.com or wikipedia?) in older people that leads

to swooning at its best and a potential stroke at the worst!

 

A breath of fresh air is all grandfatherly old people like me really

desire! For we made mistakes with our next generations (children)

that we know how we can rectify -- karmically speaking with our

grandchildren if only our children (who think we wronged them :-)

would let us!

 

I am not that old really, by the way, but just feel that way

sometimes!!

 

RR

 

;-)

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish>

wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan ji

>

> I agree with you that Vimshotari is not the only dasha and there

are so many conditional dashas to be applied; and that is why, I

often got lost in dasha based phalas. Or probably, I could not grasp

the true pointers of dashas. But, I, in my astrological pursuance,

deviated from dasha based phalas (probably, for my inability to dig

into multi levels - without reasonable success?) and started applying

transits into rashi as well D charts (with reasonable success).

Unlike most astrologers, I tried to observe the dasha prevailing

(only upto sub level) as corelating factor only. and  most of time,

upon commencement of dasha (main / sub) - planets involved, were seen

corelating in transit (upon natal positioning). Somehow, I observed

this corelation point, for chart recification (through dasha

commencement). Irrespective of dasha system, for year duration

variable, again we might end up looking at wrong / unreliable

pointers. Transit (esp read with natal degrees and D charts) has been

much more reliable pointer for me (with whatever ayanamsa I have

settled down).

>

> Parashari talks about the use of conditional dashas. For example -

if LL is in 7th or 7th lord is in lagna, then Sam Saptaka dasha to be

used. I was always lost in its application. Dasha application, is one

of the area, which I really need to fine tune for my jyotish

pursuance.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> "  It took two thousand generations to make a man from a monkey,

but only two to make a monkey out of man  "

>

>

> >

> > rrgb

> > Mon, 05 Jun 2006 01:44:08 -0000

> >

> > Re: Ayanamsa issues - misc

> >

> > Prafulla,

> >  You are wise, indeed! Given the questions that have been

directed at

> >  most birthdata, particularly those multi-posted on internet (!)

by so

> >  many, it makes sense to heed to the caution of someone who lives

in

> >  and thrives upon REALITY as you obviously do.

> >  Your pragmatism is one of the best gifts to jyotish over the

years if

> >  I may say so!

> >  I do have a question for you, though! If vimshottari were the

only

> >  dasha to be followed, why were the other conditional and general

> >  dashas recommended in BPHS?

> >  How can we be so sure that VD is the only one to follow, just

because

> >  it is so common and commonly used and recommended  by those

that took

> >  up the mantle and crown after Parashara?

> >  RR

> >  , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> >  wrote:

> >  >

> >  > Dear Members

> >  >

> >  > Each one of us have set our faith on different ayanamsa, and

have

> >  experienced success with its application (read with dasha

variations

> >  and year duration).

> >  >

> >  > Dasha has always been very ambigious issue for me (various

dashas

> >  working; often overriding in terms of events and so on). I, at

some

> >  stage, started pursuing transits (rashi chart as well D charts)

as

> >  initial factor, dasha as secondary factor - and have most of the

> >  time, identified that planets in transit will always coincide

> >  (associate - conjunction, relate with natal one etc) mutually, if

> >  they have relationship in dasha (I am referring to vimshottari

only)

> >  and when they associate first, very often, will be the correct

> >  begining point of that sub period. I used this for rectification

of

> >  chart or adjusting of dasha (for begining period). and if such

> >  corelation exists, then only the event will materialize.

> >  >

> >  > List members might also have exprienced such relationship

between

> >  main dasha / sub period. I rarely venture into sub sub period,

as I

> >  somehow, feel much more comfortable with transit (read with on D

> >  charts as well) than dasha.

> >  >

> >  > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >  >

> >  > "  It took two thousand generations to make a man from a

monkey,

> >  but only two to make a monkey out of man  "

> >  >

> >  SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND

RELISH THE

> > TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >