The proof of the pudding is in the eating

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Applies to everyone, who claims to have success in reaching the holy

grail that Shri B.V. Raman so well described for all of us Jyotishis

to come after him and some actually mistook the statement and

actually went after him <>!

 

RR

 

 

, "crystal pages" <rrgb>

wrote:

>

> Mr. Chopra,

>

> Those who call me arrogant have it right in a way! I have this

strong

> faith that no one on internet who attacks me and many have -- can

> really upset me or irritate me. The nearest that have come to doing

> that has been ArjunPandit ji and once I found out about our Reiki

> connection etc., I understand now why he was sent to do what he

did :-

> )

>

> Internet is a reality where emotions turn on a dime, as they say! I

> have observed that and hopefully my interactions with others have

> demonstrated that to those who have been observant!!

>

> As far you are concerned, the problem I see is that you (and you

are

> not the first one to do so!) have so invested your energies into

your

> belief that you have stopped questioning your belief.

>

> I can sense that you are really convinced that your ayanamsha or

> theory is the only correct one. Having made that position public,

now

> you are beginning to see that as the kingpin of your integrity.

Why?

> All you need to do is demonstrate on public forums like this that

> your choice of ayanamsha explains things more directly and simply

> than the other ones. I am sure that is how you arrived at your

> ayanamsha and all you need to do is put the facts and results out

> there and not just claims!

>

> Please do not take this wrongly or in the wrong spirit. I have

> nothing against you or your ayanamsha or your beliefs and theories

> just as I have nothing those propounded by others in similar vein.

>

> All you need to do is give examples here openly and in those

examples

> if you just stick to facts and not give any bottom-lines and

> statements that try to coerce and try to convince others to your

> bottom lines, you will find a natural audience for whatever you are

> trying to tell, humbly and factually.

>

> I am about 20 some years older than what you guessed based on your

> database and some 7 of those years in my life were spent getting

> emotional about jyotish and its verity that I as a teenager felt

was

> the only reality. Thankfully, I had some very strong rational

> influences around me as parents and teachers who got me to see

facts

> as the diet that rational logic feeds upon and not impressions!

>

> Surely a man who is only 32+ years old leading a pragmatic life can

> understand that and can follow!

>

> Like my first jyotish Guru, of my own choosing, Late Sri B.V. Raman

> drilled into my mind, just through his powerful monthly presence in

> my life at a very impressionable period in my life: The proof of

the

> pudding is in the eating!

>

> Believe me, if you think you have a soul-touching recipe -- cook it

> and serve and not expect people to do it for you!!

>

> Here is a wonderfully hungry and open forum that shall embrace you

> with open arms as long as you or anyone else is not just trying

> to 'cook-up' any facts, etc!!

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

>

>

> , "Tarun Chopra"

> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members/RR

> >

> > It was my big stupidity which I raised this question that if Mr.

RR

> > could read charts or not (now I know Rohini Ranjan is male not

> female).

> > Today I searched about him on web and found this link

> > http://www.astrologyguild.com/MayabyRohiniRanjan.htm

> >

> > I need support of knowledgeable persons like RR I want that he

> could see

> > my perspective that what I have found is worth and could change

the

> > course of astrology.

> >

> > I did three years research on ayanamsha I tried each and every

> ayanamsha

> > first starting from Lahiri, Raman, krishnamurthi, Fagan, the last

> one

> > which I got was far away was Usha Sashi now this ayanamsha also I

> found

> > a mistake so I tried to find the right date when the both zodiacs

> > coincided this research was not astronomical you can see there is

no

> > method available when two zodiacs coincided. I have research on

> this and

> > found no method by which we can know the date when tropical and

> sidereal

> > zodiacs coincided.

> >

> > I took the precision rate of Lahiri, which is 50.2719 this value

is

> > supported by Indian government and has been proved astronomically

> also.

> > But once again there is no method by which we can know when two

> zodiacs

> > coincided. That's why in this Vedic astrology world there are so

> > many ayanamsha.

> >

> > I have observed that the charts which get from lahiri or any other

> > ayanamsha does not give the right chart as people moon signs are

not

> > coming right even the lagna are not coming right if they are

around

> > above 20 degrees.

> >

> > A learned person who can know the nature of each lagna or sign

can

> tell

> > if this lagna is correct or not as all signs have different

> attributes.

> >

> > This lead to me find the right ayanamsha. What is ayanamsha, it

is a

> > date when two zodiacs were similar now you can see or calculate

on

> the

> > dates which lahiri, Raman, Krishna murthi, Fagan gave

> >

> > You will see that the signs and lagna are same to the extent but

if

> you

> > calculate it minutely you will find that these ayanamsha are not

> coming

> > precise

> >

> > Check this link http://www.occultwizard.com/calculate.doc

> >

> > This is the only method by which you can determine that

> > ayanamsha/starting date were same of tropical and sidereal

zodiacs.

> It

> > should be exact in degrees, minutes, seconds that are not in any

of

> > other ayanamsha.

> >

> > Now if you calculate with 1-1-1155 this date, which I found,

shows

> exact

> > degrees minutes and seconds.

> >

> > Now due to this you will find the events are coming so precise

that

> > whenever there is a change in dasha you get an event on the same

> date.

> > This has been observed by people/astrologers who have started

using

> my

> > ayanamsha.

> >

> > Now I just want support from Mr. rohini ranjan to see it and

start

> using

> > it on the charts or the data bank he have.

> >

> > Now question arises why Astrologers are able to predict precisely

if

> > they are using wrong ayanamsha as they are.

> >

> > This question was there with me when I found that how come I was

> > predicting so well when I was using lahiri ayanamsha. So from that

> > moment I stopped using any horoscope for predictions I was amazed

> to see

> > how well my predictions were coming true without looking any

> horoscope.

> >

> > All good astrologers have intuition power, which they develop by

> > sadhana. And it is in the destiny of a client to get a right

reading

> > irrespective of any ayanamsha.

> >

> > My motive is just that people start using this ayanamsha and see

the

> > results.

> >

> > I am also trying to develop astrology software, which could

generate

> > horoscopes according to 1-1-1155. And my motive is that this

> software be

> > free so that people could use it.

> >

> > I hope one day I will get support for some one who will help me to

> > develop this software.

> >

> > I re-request to all learned members to just be flexible and start

> using

> > this ayanamsha. Which gives right timing as well as right chart.

> >

> > I once again ask forgiveness from Mr. RR if I have offended him I

> have

> > no intention to hurt any one even in my distant dreams.

> >

> > Thanking you all

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> > www.occultwizard.com

> > naastrology/

> >

> >

> >