Guest guest Posted June 2, 2006 Report Share Posted June 2, 2006 (Srila Prabhupada): Change means rascal. Anything change means it is the domain of rascals. Pandemonium. Just like in Manu-samhita it is said that women should not be given independence. Once said, that is fact. If you want to change, you suffer. That's all." I said, "Any deviation from absolute law means immediate suffering." Prabhupada agreed. "Bas! Immediately you have to suffer." "You're painting a pretty bleak picture," Harikesa said. Srila Prabhupada didn't immediately catch his idiomatic expression, so Harikesa elaborated. "The one you're painting of society and the future. There's no hope." "No," Prabhupada said. "Unless they take to Krsna consciousness, there is no hope; that's a fact. There will be more chaotic condition, and everyone will suffer and perish. Acchinna-dara-dravina yasyanti giri-kananam. This is already predicted. I am not painting. It is already there; I am simply repeating. That's all. I am not speculator." (From Transcendental Diary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yogkriya Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 What about changing of the original maha mantra: Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare, Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare to Hare Krishna first by Sri Chaitanya? The very nature of nature is to change. Everything changes. Night changes to day, summer changes to fall and winter, sorrow changes to joy, philosophies change. What was the need for the gaudiyas to churn out so many new books? The original Vedas are full of vast knowledge!! That is more than enough! Everything is there. Why did Chaitanya say in the age of Kali ... Why can't we practice the Vedic ways of sadhna and just chant a mantra with proper asana, disha, pranayama etc. like they used to do in the Vedic period? Everything changes. But yes the laws governing the prakriti maintain the changes. Its not a wild uncontrollable phenomenone as it may seem. Some one (Krishna) is directing this orchestra. But I wouldn't agree with this overly agressive use of the rascal word!! Chaitanya "changed" the original Mahamantra for a fact. Now how can SPP say "Anything change means it is the domain of rascals"? That's over generalizing. Though importance of the good Vedic values for human life and what SPP wanted to point at are of course acknowledged. (Srila Prabhupada): Change means rascal. Anything change means it is thedomain of rascals. Pandemonium. Just like in Manu-samhita it is said that women should not be given independence. Once said, that is fact. If you want to change, you suffer. That's all." I said, "Any deviation from absolute law means immediate suffering." Prabhupada agreed. "Bas! Immediately you have to suffer." "You're painting a pretty bleak picture," Harikesa said. Srila Prabhupada didn't immediately catch his idiomatic expression, so Harikesa elaborated. "The one you're painting of society and the future. There's no hope." "No," Prabhupada said. "Unless they take to Krsna consciousness, there is no hope; that's a fact. There will be more chaotic condition, and everyone will suffer and perish. Acchinna-dara-dravina yasyanti giri-kananam. This is already predicted. I am not painting. It is already there; I am simply repeating. That's all. I am not speculator." (From Transcendental Diary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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