Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Dear Prashant ji, tarun chopra is not involved in this thread...this is me..TARUN AGARWAL please suggest me further. thanks Tarun www.thevinayak.com --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote: > Dear RR, > > I had a chat session with Tarun y'day and one 2 days ago, y'day was more significant as it > shows he is not a sure shot researcher where he has done a good study on classics or older > works to get the basics right, the conents of what he must lok for and where modifications or > fine tuning can be achieved to imrpve the results. and belives that his ayanamsa is a sole > deciding factor. > > HE IS FROZEN ON his ayanamsa as `the last word' on astrological readings....! and he has QUIT > ALL JYOTISH FORUMS and will remain in his forum and wrie a book with his version of th estory. > > he did not read my post in the group, so sent him to his ID on what he needs to study and a > sample database of min 200-300 across the world with the event list I had suggested and can be > expanded too. > > He read my mail but is not sure if HE CAN GET a sample size of 200-300. which i believe is a > minimum for anyone claiming path breaking findings....! > > People go to astrologers or doctors in faith even quakcs exisit and do make an impression on > the gullile but this does more harm to the serious people, and subject most, while the quacks > bask in self glory. > > > I have not had a chance to try this > ....2nd house represents Niyama and self-discipline. I am positive that it > came from one of Mr. KN Rao's books or articles. Again, perhaps one > should see the varga of 'strength' also, namely saptavimshamsha.... > > but will try and do some study here on this. [MAY BE SYNERGISE IT] > but how about what i raised isn't mind central to anything here? > > 1 as the main reason the drugist takes it to give him Ecstasy or false state of being > 2. is in suspended logic, affection, reality. > > all our Puranas talk of MIND OVER MATTER even the invincibLe rakshasas were defeated more by > their weakness than their vanquishers might. > say Ravana himself was reduced in his response by Rama's charity to come next day after ravana > lost his weapons, charriot etc. > a mere mortal asking him [a might warrier, invincile by even gods] to come tomorrow ate all > his energies than work on it as a let off and come back stronger, fresh. > all other rakshasas too same story. > their ego when punctured lost all theri real strengTh which is MIND OVER MATTER? !!! > > FEAR AND FAVOR are the worst evils most of our scriptures say. > > Thanks > > Prashant > > > crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Tarun ji, > > Drugs, alcohol, food, vitamins, everything is a chemical, if you look > at it that way. A distinction must be drawn between alcohol and > drugs, because unlike drugs, alcohol has a property that it shared > with food, in terms of producing energy (calories), however, alcohol > gives what scientists call empty calories, these cannot be stored > (unlike food calories) and cannot be utilized by body to grow or > repair itself (unlike food). Drugs (hard drugs) do not share that > property. > > However, my personal preference would be to not try and examine drugs > and addiction in the astrological framework as a leaning towards > chemicals etc. There are good chemicals and bad chemicals and surely > saturn as someone suggested would not cover all the chemicals. I have > also seen people successfully link venus with chemicals (based on > profession etc) and if you have read Sri Tatvamasiji's articles on > planets and periodic table, you will get a glimpse of what I mean and > that it is not overly simple, one planet control issue :-) > > While you may cringe at this and say this is irrelevant, I would > direct your attention to www.astrodatabank.com site and find the > research section. You will find a carefully done study on alcoholism > and if nothing you would enjoy an excellent example of how > astrological research should be done. Other articles (including one > or two on jyotish research as well) would be of interest too. > > The reason I was suggesting the 2nd house playing a role was not just > because of 'oral fixation' which plays a significant role in > addictions according to some psychologists, but also because the 2nd > house represents Niyama and self-discipline. I am positive that it > came from one of Mr. KN Rao's books or articles. Again, perhaps one > should see the varga of 'strength' also, namely saptavimshamsha. > > Of course I am sending you off to study all these articles and so on > and you might actually just be cursorily interested in pursuing this > search :-) > > But just in case someone else is interested ... > > RR > > > , ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir. > > > > this is all clear that 2nd house, 3rd house or 5th house. > > > > but what is drug ..its finally a chemical and which planets > associates to chemicals. i.e. saturn.( > > i guess) > > > > now we must also take alcohal in inclusion to this addiction that > those who are not satisfied with > > alcohal leads to drug addictions. > > this may be for pleasure( i dont think so) but this is for losing > consiousness which is to get rid > > of the tensions. > > what finally leads after drugs i.e. death/sickness/illness or 8th > house. > > > > in my view natural karak for 8th house i.e. mars and saturn along > with rahu can lead to drug > > addiction. if this is severe in horoscope then cocaine,brown sugar > etc...or if they are not strong > > then it may be like daily and regular use of medicines like (crocin > or pain killers) > > > > Kindly suggest me further. > > > > Tarun > > www.thevinayak.com > > > > > > --- Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > > > > Dear reders, > > > > > > It is true we need to look at 2nd, 5th houses for food, is this > food? is where we can' draw a > > > line as the taker feels so [it is his food] > > > in such a case the one taking it has to be studied from him > mental plane, comes from his Mano > > > Karaka Chandra, his 4th lord, 4th house, aspects, conjunctions > on any or all of them with > > > RAHU/Ketu the catalyists here and as always the transits, dasa > for it to allow /manifest the > > > event. > > > > > > 4th I ref here for mind, family, relatives, friends, basic > academic level, influences / environment > > > > > > Thanks > > > Prashant > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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