Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Dear Syam, At the moment we are taking the hypocritical road, using the milk from the neighbours jersey farm but doing nothing to actually protect the cows. Not true, actually. My guru, Paramadvaiti Maharaj, when I discussed my plans with him, he said that I should find a way to engage the local dairy farmers; so I am trying to do that with the local farmer who has jersey cows. Now, I have always heard that jersey bulls are not the best, but conventional wisdom (CW) here is that if they are treated well then they are OK, so I may have to go along with jersey though I was shooting for Swiss Brown. Jersey is better here too, as there is more stock in the area, pedigree jersey as well. So, we are buying direct from their herd. They have read my website at protection farms, and they are very interested because, even though they eat meat (now showing an interest in vegetarianism) they do not want to sell their animals to the slaughterhouse, like many small holding dairy farms. For them the CW is that it is the only way to be profitable. Now, we have another system, so I have been describing it to them,. and the ´only´ way for it to be truly profitable is by organic cropping with direct delivery to the customer. I am waiting for my guru to come to the finca in September for his vyasapuja to knock out the details, but as I see it that until I buy my own land I can not take on animals unless I buy them and leave them with the local farmer. I am looking to buy land next to the devotees land, where I am currently living 50Km from BA centre. Very similar to Bhaktivendanta Manor but much, much poorer. I am looking to hire the dairy farmer, who is an agricultural engineer, to work the organic farm with me. I see that the organic box delivery system can be very profitable. We have at least 200 members who will be wanting, God willing, to buy boxes from us of (non-certified as yet) organic box selection at a cheaper price than in the market: a $20 peso box containing $30 pesos of veg as bought in a grocers; and a $30 box containing a $50 equivelant. I am looking to lock in my customer base. I do not believe that organics should be more expensive per se. In fact, I believe that my missing out the middlemen - the central market, the wholesaler and the grocers or supermarket - then a direct delivery system should be profitable. Until I have had a few years to test this theory out then, if it works, I will be looking to employ oxen into the system. To start with I will use a rotovator or horses. Fortunately, I have money behind me - pounds - which here tranlate to 5.5 times its value. I may have to invest $10,000 pesos for the first two years (and probably lose it), but that amounts to 2,000 pounds or U$D 3,500; a sum, but I will also be paying for an education in what to do and what not to do to set up an organic farm. As the selfsufficiency road to cow protection is, whilst not dead, certainly in the doldrums, I see that we need to buy our self into self sufficiency by this type of venture. In fact, as repeatedly stated in this conference, until oxen are worked then cows will not be protected as cow/milk go-alone venture has been killed at the conceptual stage by ISKCON cow protectors. Personally, you all know I do not agree on that limitation, which I see as the main reason cows are not being protected - this ideological blinkering that states unless oxen be worked then cows can not be protected, use blood milk, chant hare krsna and quote Prabhupada in what was a different time, place and circumstance. But, if one must rise to the challenge, then one must. So, how do the economics work? Simple, until I can make profit from the intensive organic farm then there is at present no projections for cow population, though I may start to own a few as pets with desires to expand in the future. I believe that I need to tackle the ox/crop equation by starting with crops, then oxen, then cows and milk; for it was this way around that cows became domesticated and useful in the first place back in King Prthu´s time. By the way, did you see my article in last seasons The Vegetarian Magazine with pictures of the Manor? Gopa Syamasundara (das) (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK) <Syamasundara (AT) pamho (DOT) net> mark john <gopanandadasa (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Cc: Cow (Protection and related issues) <Cow (AT) pamho (DOT) net> Tuesday, 6 June, 2006 4:42:00 AM cows for profit Dear Gopananda, hare Krishna. Excellent plan to engage the oxen in a way that employs the ox men. Usual questions. How many cows will be impregnated a year and what will the herd size be in 15 years and how do the economics stack up at 1,2,,5,10 and 15 years? ys syam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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