Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 "OK, let me see if I understand you. What you seem to be saying is that we have a choice between hissing and blissing. We actually have that absolute freedom. But that we unconsciously choose to suffer because we feel compelled to make others suffer. So called 'enlightenment' is when it becomes crystal clear to us that when we feel compelled to cause suffering, what we're really doing is compelling ourselves to suffer. It's as simple as that. You're saying that we're under the delusion that others need to be made to suffer so that we may be protected. But that the truth is, we're only subverting ourselves when we subvert others. "Well, I guess I've heard that all my life, and yet I still find myself suffering, so what's the deal? In response, you say, that it's so obvious that we just don't see it and that our blindness is so insidious that we don't even know when we're making both ourselves and each other suffer. What some call pleasure, you say, is really pain; and what others call pain is really pleasure. "So, you add, it takes a so called 'enlightened' person to clue us in to what is actually self-torture and what is actually self-nurture or liberation. You say that the difference between these two seemingly vast differences is clouded by our incomparable blindness. So much so, that it takes a tremendous and miraculous transformation for one to drop this self abuse you refer to. "Is that right? And, you say, that all it takes for one to quite simply liberate oneself, is for one to just simply 'let go' of any and all self-torture. And, you hasten to say, everything but, what you call the ineffable, that which is beyond language, beyond naming, is self-torture, or delusion. You say that any thing, any action, any doing, that can be named, is, in the very naming, self-torture. But that in the not doing, in a sense, there is the not engaging in self-torture. "And, lastly, when I ask you if I've understood, you answer with no answer, thus implying, to me, in any case, that even this question is itself a form of self-torture." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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