Vaishnavism and Brahminism

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Dear Sree Sathyanarayana awargal,

Your post was an eye opener...was really good to read and seek enlightenment through your thoughts.

Thanks for your message-

Rahul,

"Sathya. Kaliyamoorthy" <k_sathya (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

Acharyan Thiruvadigale Saranam

 

Dear All:

 

Greetings. Adiyen just wanted to add a couple of cents related to the temple

priest discussion. In our opinion, there is no place for the so called

brahminism in Sri Vaishnavism, which we call as Emperumaanar Tharisanam. In

fact, daily brahminic activities such as sandhya vadanam, Gayatri mantra etc

do not find a spot in Vaishnavism. It has a role in the Veidika dharma.

 

Eventhough there is caste system in our soceity, no single caste is superior than the others.

 

Just think how the world will be if there are no people to clean

or cut our hair or even cultivate and provide us with food grains.

Practically speaking the world can not without these essential occupations.

 

Scriptures in Vaishnavism indicate no preference for a particular caste. In fact, God himself has chosen 9 out of the 10 Azhwars as non-brahmins, who enriched our sampradaya. There cannot be a greater example than the life of Thirupaanazhwar. God himself taught a fitting lesson to those misbehaving brahmins at that time. Unfortunately there are still a lot of people who do not realize or appreciate how Emperuman would like us to live.

 

In fact, anyone can be a vaishnavite- all he or she needs is

Emperuman and Acharya's grace. One who performs proper anushtaanams and follows the scriptures can ALSO be a vaishnavite.

 

We all know ........."Nyaanam Anuttaanam Ivai Nanraagave udayanaana Guruvai

adainthakkaal Maanilatheer thenaar kamala thirumaamagal kozhunan thaane

vaiguntham tharum". There is no mention of brahmin here or as a matter of

fact anywhere else in Vaishnava scripts.

 

Please accept adiyen's apologies if I have spoken something thats not true.

 

Nanmaiyaal Mikka Naanmaraiyaalargal Punmaiyaaga karuthuvaraathalil

Annaiyaai athanaai ennai aandirum thanmayaan Sadagopan en nambiye.

 

Adiyen ,

Sathyanarayana Ramanuja Dasan

 

 

 

 

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Adiyen

Noone denies the need to perform sandyavandanam and other nithya naimithika karmas but at the same time one must also realise that these are vidhis aimed at deha visishta aathmas not for nishkrishta aathma vesham.

When they say you can skip sandyavandanam and other duties it is when one is involved in baghavat kainkaryam.

ATHAANI SEVAKATHIL PODUVAANADHU NAZHUVUM.Says naayanaar.

As we vaishnavas are thirumanthra nishtargal seshathva paratanthriyam to Sreemann narayanan is our asaadaarana darmam.All the veda vihitha karmas aims at devata antaryami which is not so preferred by our lord as compared to the kainkaryams we perform directly to him.This state can be realised by any soul irrespective of caste creed relegion .

All the vaishnavas need not be brahmins and the vice versa.Besides all the sandyavandanaadi karmas are to be performed by us as bagvataagyaa bagvat kainkaryam and not with a upaayathva budhi.These are not means to an end but yogyatha apaadaka gunam.Any way karma swaroopam can never be sacrificed only our attitude while performing it like kartruthva budhi mamatha budhi should be sacrificed along with palasanga raahithyam.These are adhikaari viseshanams.Otherwise swamy emperumaanaar at the age of 120 would not have stood up to give arkyam or our Kannan in his vibavam would not have performed his vaisya darmam.So it is sishtaachaara sidham.

adiyen Ramanuja dasi

 

varadha rAmAnuja dAsan <varadha.ramanujadasan > wrote:

srI:

srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha:

Sathya. Kaliyamoorthy swami,

Though all the things you have stated happen to be true, Iyengars cannot escape brahminic duties using this reason. Are you suggesting that we are all vaishnavas and need not do sandhyavandanam? If it is so, adiyEn begs to differ and surely poorvAchAryAs will not agree with your view. If we dont need to practice brahminic activities, then what IS the need for upanayanam and yagnopaveetham?

The preface to nithyanusanthanam book by Lifco: (Written by pillailokam sthalasayanathuraivar swami) reads:

"A iyengar should never leave these four things: 1) sikhai, 2) thiruman kAppu, 3) yagnOpaveetham and 4) sandhyavandanam"

(Though the word iyengar is not mentioned in the beginning, it is understood that it is meant for iyengars - adiyEn does not remember the exact sentence as it is - but the meaning is intact).

emperumAnAr tiruvadigaLe saranam!

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adinAyEn,

varadha rAmAnuja dAsan.