Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 OM NAMAH SIVAYA Sal, in speaking about joy, justice, truth, empathy, patience, forgiveness, and unconditional Love, you said, "He can model this path only if he has any intelligence of these truths and embraces them in understanding." while i understand your point and it may be true for many, i think you are leaving out half of the truth. a father can also teach the above to a child thru the negative. a child can also learn these by a father modeling what NOT to do. but as you say that depends on the child. i also think whomever is our father is the ideal father because He was chosen for us by Divine Mother. to me this question of ideals implies our preconceived expectations projected on people and/or situations outside ourSelves. i feel to project our ideals on others very well may result in our suffering and dissapointment. and while i am sure many may not agree i further think at some point in our spiritual growth ideals and goals can be obstacles in and of themselves if we are unable to adjust, adapt, and accomodate. just my 2 cents. JAI MAA , "salpaulsen" <salpaulsen wrote: > > , "srini_sadhu" <srini_sadhu@> > wrote: > > How does the ideal father behave? What are his responsibilities > > towards his children? Are there scriptures that describe these duties? > > How can the father and child work toward perfecting their > > relationship? What are the rites and the paddhoti that involve a man > > in his role as a father? > > Can the ideal father teach joy, if he himself knows not beauty, peace > and happiness? Can the ideal father teach justice, if he himself has > not been fair? Can the ideal father teach truth is he himself has not > been honest? Can the ideal father teach empathy if he himself has not > shown compassion? Can the ideal father teach patience if he himself > has been impatient? Can the ideal father teach forgiveness if he > himself has not shown mercy? Can the ideal father teach unconditional > love if he himself has a greater attachment to his ego? > > He can model this path only if he has any intelligence of these truths > and embraces them in understanding. To others - including his > children, he can point the way, but the desire must also lie in the > heart of the one with whom he shares. You can lead a horse to water, > so to speak... > > He is responsible to point out which door to open, but it is up to the > child to desire to open the door and walk through it. There his > responsibility ends. In an ideal universe the cycle should never > end...we're talking ideal here. The desire continues... > > How does one teach desire? > > Scriptures? I regret that I am woefully lacking knowledge in that > area...Natural Law and the manifest causes and effects of my behavior > have proven an uncannily reliable gauge as to how I'm living my truth... > > much love to you all... > your sister, (thank you muktimaa for asking!) > sal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 I completely agree with the "half the truth," because invariably in the human experience, a child only sees the one "half" by what he is taught, whether that is positive or negative. By experience, the child then sees the other "half", or chooses not to perpetuate the cycle. And yes, we definitely project our belief onto others. Hopefully good ones. I also agree with your assertion that the Divine Father/Mother picks our "parents" for us, based on the life experience we need this time around. Thank you for adding to this discussion. Forgive me if I've miscontrued your point.... with love, sal, , "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us wrote: > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > Sal, in speaking about joy, justice, truth, empathy, patience, > forgiveness, and unconditional Love, you said, "He can model this > path only if he has any intelligence of these truths and embraces > them in understanding." while i understand your point and it may be > true for many, i think you are leaving out half of the truth. a > father can also teach the above to a child thru the negative. a > child can also learn these by a father modeling what NOT to do. but > as you say that depends on the child. i also think whomever is our > father is the ideal father because He was chosen for us by Divine > Mother. to me this question of ideals implies our preconceived > expectations projected on people and/or situations outside > ourSelves. i feel to project our ideals on others very well may > result in our suffering and dissapointment. and while i am sure > many may not agree i further think at some point in our spiritual > growth ideals and goals can be obstacles in and of themselves if we > are unable to adjust, adapt, and accomodate. just my 2 cents. > > JAI MAA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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