Prahlada Lives in Both Worlds At Once

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According to Srimad Bhagavatam, Prahlada Maharaja lives in Vaikunthaloka and in this universe on the planet Sutala at the same time.

SB 7 4-34

 

yasmin mahad-guna rajan

 

grhyante kavibhir muhuh

 

na te 'dhuna pidhiyante

 

yatha bhagavatisvare

 

TRANSLATION

 

 

 

O King, Prahlada Maharaja's good qualities are still glorified by learned saints and Vaisnavas. As all good qualities are always found existing in the Supreme Personality of Godhead, they also exist forever in His devotee Prahlada Maharaja.

 

Srila Prabhupada explains how Prahlada Maharaja lives in both worlds simultaneously in his purport.

 

 

PURPORT

 

 

 

From authoritative scripture it is learned that Prahlada Maharaja still lives in Vaikunthaloka as well as within this material world on the planet Sutala. This transcendental quality of existing simultaneously in different places is another qualification of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutah: the Lord appears in the core of everyone's heart, yet He exists on His own planet, Goloka Vrndavana. A devotee acquires qualities almost the same as those of the Lord because of unalloyed devotional service. Ordinary living beings cannot be so qualified, but a devotee can be qualified like the Supreme Personality of Godhead, not in full but partially.

 

end purport

 

 

 

So, I guess the answer to the question about whether or not Srila Prabhupada is in Goloka is that he could be in Goloka and on Earth in ISKCON at the same.

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Where is the planet Sutala? in our solar system?

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Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 8.22.33

 

indrasena mahārāja

 

yāhi bho bhadram astu te

 

sutalaḿ svargibhiḥ prārthyaḿ

 

jñātibhiḥ parivāritaḥ

 

SYNONYMS

 

indrasena — O Mahārāja Bali; mahārāja — O King; yāhi — better go; bhoḥ — O King; bhadram — all auspiciousness; astu — let there be; te — unto you; sutalam — in the planet known as Sutala; svargibhiḥ — by the demigods; prārthyam — desirable; jñātibhiḥ — by your family members; parivāritaḥ — surrounded.

 

TRANSLATION

 

O Bali Mahārāja [indrasena], now you may go to the planet Sutala, which is desired even by the demigods. Live there peacefully, surrounded by your friends and relatives. All good fortune unto you.

 

PURPORT

 

Bali Mahārāja was transferred from the heavenly planet to the planet Sutala, which is hundreds of times better than heaven, as indicated by the words svargibhiḥ prārthyam. When the Supreme Personality of Godhead deprives His devotee of material opulences, this does not mean that the Lord puts him into poverty; rather, the Lord promotes him to a higher position. The Supreme Personality of Godhead did not ask Bali Mahārāja to separate from his family; instead, the Lord allowed him to stay with his family members (jñātibhiḥ parivāritaḥ).

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Where is the planet Sutala? in our solar system?

 

Sutala is a subterrainean heaven that is situated below the Earth.

In the lower regions of the universe the Sun's ray do not reach there.

The subterrainean realm is illuminated by the jewels on the head of Lord Ananta Sesa.

The subterranean heavens are considered to be a paradise for the asuric beings.

Sutala is said to be even more heavenly for gross sense enjoyment than is the higher heavens of Svargaloka.

 

The higher celestial heavens have a lot of goodness with some passion mixed in.

The lower subterrainean heavens are full-bore passion without any of the sattvic mode of the higher heavens.

 

Thus,for the grossest of materialists, the subterranean heavens are more desirable that the celestial heavens.

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Sutala is a subterrainean heaven that is situated below the Earth.

In the lower regions of the universe the Sun's ray do not reach there.

The subterrainean realm is illuminated by the jewels on the head of Lord Ananta Sesa.

The subterranean heavens are considered to be a paradise for the asuric beings.

Sutala is said to be even more heavenly for gross sense enjoyment than is the higher heavens of Svargaloka.

 

The higher celestial heavens have a lot of goodness with some passion mixed in.

The lower subterrainean heavens are full-bore passion without any of the sattvic mode of the higher heavens.

 

Thus,for the grossest of materialists, the subterranean heavens are more desirable that the celestial heavens.

 

who goes to Planet Sutala? can people with good karma die and go there if they desire?

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who goes to Planet Sutala? can people with good karma die and go there if they desire?

 

Lord Siva has his own planet in the subterrainean realm.

His planet is called Vitalaloka and it is the next planet up from Sutala.

 

On Sutalaloka, Lord Vamanadeva lives as the doorkeeper of Bali Maharaja.

 

By worship of Bali Maharaja, whose doorkeeper is Lord Vamanadeva, one can attain to Sutalaloka.

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So, I guess the answer to the question about whether or not Srila Prabhupada is in Goloka is that he could be in Goloka and on Earth in ISKCON at the same.

 

Excellent. And not just in Iskcon but in his instructions as well. There willing to give instructions and accept service on behalf of the Lord while aty the same time inspiring service to Krsna.

 

We are always tempted to try to impose our space/time conceptions and limitations onto transcendental personalities. In our conditioned state how can we do otherwise, it is all we know.

 

As we mature we will learn to just appreciate the presence of the Lord and His devotee without being concerned about the physics of it all.

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Excellent. And not just in Iskcon but in his instructions as well. There willing to give instructions and accept service on behalf of the Lord while aty the same time inspiring service to Krsna.

 

We are always tempted to try to impose our space/time conceptions and limitations onto transcendental personalities. In our conditioned state how can we do otherwise, it is all we know.

 

As we mature we will learn to just appreciate the presence of the Lord and His devotee without being concerned about the physics of it all.

 

Yes, in his instructions, but also in the temples he established and keeping up the worship of the deities he installed.

 

Great acharyas who establish deities and temples worship these deities eternally. they just don't install deities and then abandon them.

Srila Prabhupada is eternally in his temples worshipping the deities that he established all over the world.

 

He is also in these temples in his murti form to perfrom his duties as acharya.

 

These murtis of Srila Prabhupada are not dead.

They can be seen as living by those who have been given the eyes to see.

 

Srila Prabhupada has appeared through to his murti to some of his disciples and actually spoken to them and given them instructions on how to go back to Godhead.

 

For sure, these murtis are alive and fully conscious.

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woe unto those who think that the murti of Srila Prabhupada is a plastic figurine.

 

The murti of Srila Prabhupada is ALIVE!!!

 

This is a fact that has been experienced by some of his sincere devotees.

 

Some people in ISKCON like to go on as if the murti is just a plastic statue.

 

For certain, the murti is living. Srila Prabhupada actually functions through his murti.

 

Only sick persons with hellish mentality do no understand that Srila Prabhupada is present in his murti form.