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Dear all,

 

there are two schools in KSY/KAY.

 

One school seriously believes that KAY is indeed good, whereas the

other school says KSY is KSY, no matter how you call it and it is

always bad.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Tatvam-Asi,

>

> I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

> And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote:

>

> > Friends,

> >

> > KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> > I have done some work using Rahu centric

> > principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> > I found that its goodness or badness solely

> > depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> > I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> > latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> > disastrous marriage.

> > Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> > say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> > principles easily.

> >

> > Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham

> > wrote:

> > Namaste,

> > > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> > nothing but

> > a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> > to seek

> > astrological advice. As the examples given above it

> > is true that

> > whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due

> > to planetary

> > position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga".

> > ......

> >

> > Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> > to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa

> > yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> > 39 , 12 N 15

> > [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class

> > family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> > improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> > ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> > for several crores , now happily settled.

> > Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

> >

> > <gg_0202 wrote: The

> > Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> > The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

> >

> > Introduction

> > In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> > most common point

> > of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> > is most ominous

> > combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are

> > destroyed & the

> > native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to

> > be suffering

> > through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> > while his

> > hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> > Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> > Sarpa yoga?

> > It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu

> > & Ketu, then it

> > becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous

> > combination.

> > However, books are being published under this name,

> > with suggested

> > remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy

> > by discussing

> > about this topic in newspapers, television &

> > internet with the

> > relevant information they have about the effects of

> > this yoga.

> > The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> > the "Kal" (meaning

> > a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> > troubles the

> > native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today

> > are talking

> > about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Some of the

> > results, which they opine are, the native's fate is

> > damned, he

> > cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> > get a job or

> > his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> > suffer from

> > financial problems, problems in having offspring

> > etc. all such craps.

> > According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga,

> > if all the

> > planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one

> > or more planets

> > are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> > between, then it

> > is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> > However if six

> > planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> > one is located in

> > the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> > Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga lead

> > more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> > Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> > of Vedic

> > astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> > don't find

> > anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara

> > Hora Sastra,

> > Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> > Phaladeepika, Jatak

> > Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> > Jatakabharanam,

> > Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> > even the modern

> > Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> > anything about this

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> > Yoga in the

> > Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> > the volume of

> > December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While

> > discussing about

> > KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> > about its root.

> > However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> > The sloka he

> > quoted is as under:-

> > agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> > yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> > -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front &

> > ketu is at last

> > while all other planets are in between, then this

> > combination is

> > called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king

> > of destruction of

> > grains.

> > It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has

> > nothing to do with

> > personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to

> > mundane astrology

> > (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> > In that same magazine, another writer supported this

> > combination by

> > refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by

> > Varahamihira & he

> > wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is

> > Sun, Mars & Saturn

> > in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses

> > other than

> > kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the

> > chapter of nabhas

> > Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, &

> > in the texts of

> > Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> > We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the

> > existence of Sarpa

> > Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas).

> > According to

> > him, if malefics are in Kendras then that

> > combination is known

> > as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi

> > Parasara to

> > support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat

> > Jatakam, also

> > named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga

> > didn't include

> > Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu

> > or Ketu hasn't

> > been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made

> > it clear about

> > the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu

> > triñu kendreñu

> > päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre

> > bhabati saumya

> > graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means

> > if Sun, Saturn &

> > Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other

> > planets are not in

> > kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the

> > Astrological

> > magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu

> > has got nothing

> > to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> > We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference

> > in classical

> > texts, nor supported by any astrological texts,

> > because Maharshi

> > Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya,

> > Kalidas, Baidyanath

> > Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj

> > or famous

> > astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> > Results of Rahu & Ketu

> > It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa

> > Yoga

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Kishoreji,

Yes, you are absolutely right. Whatever is the name, this combination seems to affect the native if it is badly placed as is the case with any other yoga.

May be the name scare away people but need to take this combination seriously if it is badly afflicted. If conjoined with maraka combination, then "Dwathrimshat" means 32 years is always a critical junction for the native whereas KAY always slow down the progress of the native till the natural year of Kethu (45 years) of course subject to its placement.

Regards

Ravi Nair

 

kishore mohan <kishorepatnaik09 > wrote:

Dear all,

 

there are two schools in KSY/KAY.

 

One school seriously believes that KAY is indeed good, whereas the

other school says KSY is KSY, no matter how you call it and it is

always bad.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

vedic astrology, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Tatvam-Asi,

>

> I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

> And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote:

>

> > Friends,

> >

> > KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> > I have done some work using Rahu centric

> > principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> > I found that its goodness or badness solely

> > depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> > I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> > latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> > disastrous marriage.

> > Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> > say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> > principles easily.

> >

> > Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham

> > wrote:

> > Namaste,

> > > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> > nothing but

> > a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> > to seek

> > astrological advice. As the examples given above it

> > is true that

> > whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due

> > to planetary

> > position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga".

> > ......

> >

> > Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> > to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa

> > yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> > 39 , 12 N 15

> > [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class

> > family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> > improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> > ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> > for several crores , now happily settled.

> > Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

> >

> > <gg_0202 wrote: The

> > Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> > The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

> >

> > Introduction

> > In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> > most common point

> > of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> > is most ominous

> > combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are

> > destroyed & the

> > native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to

> > be suffering

> > through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> > while his

> > hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> > Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> > Sarpa yoga?

> > It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu

> > & Ketu, then it

> > becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous

> > combination.

> > However, books are being published under this name,

> > with suggested

> > remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy

> > by discussing

> > about this topic in newspapers, television &

> > internet with the

> > relevant information they have about the effects of

> > this yoga.

> > The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> > the "Kal" (meaning

> > a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> > troubles the

> > native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today

> > are talking

> > about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Some of the

> > results, which they opine are, the native's fate is

> > damned, he

> > cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> > get a job or

> > his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> > suffer from

> > financial problems, problems in having offspring

> > etc. all such craps.

> > According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga,

> > if all the

> > planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one

> > or more planets

> > are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> > between, then it

> > is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> > However if six

> > planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> > one is located in

> > the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> > Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga lead

> > more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> > Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> > of Vedic

> > astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> > don't find

> > anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara

> > Hora Sastra,

> > Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> > Phaladeepika, Jatak

> > Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> > Jatakabharanam,

> > Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> > even the modern

> > Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> > anything about this

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> > Yoga in the

> > Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> > the volume of

> > December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While

> > discussing about

> > KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> > about its root.

> > However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> > The sloka he

> > quoted is as under:-

> > agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> > yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> > -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front &

> > ketu is at last

> > while all other planets are in between, then this

> > combination is

> > called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king

> > of destruction of

> > grains.

> > It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has

> > nothing to do with

> > personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to

> > mundane astrology

> > (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> > In that same magazine, another writer supported this

> > combination by

> > refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by

> > Varahamihira & he

> > wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is

> > Sun, Mars & Saturn

> > in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses

> > other than

> > kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the

> > chapter of nabhas

> > Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, &

> > in the texts of

> > Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> > We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the

> > existence of Sarpa

> > Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas).

> > According to

> > him, if malefics are in Kendras then that

> > combination is known

> > as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi

> > Parasara to

> > support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat

> > Jatakam, also

> > named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga

> > didn't include

> > Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu

> > or Ketu hasn't

> > been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made

> > it clear about

> > the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu

> > triñu kendreñu

> > päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre

> > bhabati saumya

> > graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means

> > if Sun, Saturn &

> > Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other

> > planets are not in

> > kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the

> > Astrological

> > magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu

> > has got nothing

> > to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> > We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference

> > in classical

> > texts, nor supported by any astrological texts,

> > because Maharshi

> > Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya,

> > Kalidas, Baidyanath

> > Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj

> > or famous

> > astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> > Results of Rahu & Ketu

> > It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa

> > Yoga

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear all,

I am under KSY & still undergoing rough weather,I dont think it is very good,see if it is good or not.

13/5/58----4.20.A.M. at Hubli ,Karnataka.

thanking you

sincerly

sunil

 

kishore mohan <kishorepatnaik09 > wrote:

Dear all,

 

there are two schools in KSY/KAY.

 

One school seriously believes that KAY is indeed good, whereas the

other school says KSY is KSY, no matter how you call it and it is

always bad.

 

Kishore patnaik

 

vedic astrology, Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Tatvam-Asi,

>

> I have also read that KSY can be either good or bad.

> And, the good KSY is called as Kala Amruta Yoga.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> --- Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote:

>

> > Friends,

> >

> > KSY has been hyped for not MUCH of a real reason .

> > I have done some work using Rahu centric

> > principles and it is not always that KSY is bad.

> > I found that its goodness or badness solely

> > depends upon dasa bhukti a person is undergoing.

> > I checked up many charts including Bush's and

> > latest is that of Bangalore boy Harsha with

> > disastrous marriage.

> > Now I can safely say that It would be possible to

> > say good KSY and Bad KSY using Rahu centric

> > principles easily.

> >

> > Anyone interested , may write to me privately.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham

> > wrote:

> > Namaste,

> > > .......we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is

> > nothing but

> > a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come

> > to seek

> > astrological advice. As the examples given above it

> > is true that

> > whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due

> > to planetary

> > position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga".

> > ......

> >

> > Your above conclusions seems to be reasonably true

> > to my experience.I know a person born in "Kal Surpa

> > yoga" born on 5th February 1938 @ 10.04 hrs - 79 E

> > 39 , 12 N 15

> > [ + 5.30 East of GMT] He was born in a middle class

> > family,from the day one of his birth seen lot of

> > improvements, no brothers,he had education up to '

> > ESSLC '[8TH STANDARD] , in business amassed wealth

> > for several crores , now happily settled.

> > Please keep it up, done a good job! good job!!

> >

> > <gg_0202 wrote: The

> > Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

> > The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

> >

> > Introduction

> > In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the

> > most common point

> > of discussion in the country. It is said that this

> > is most ominous

> > combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are

> > destroyed & the

> > native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to

> > be suffering

> > through all kind of hardships throughout his life,

> > while his

> > hardship doesn't yield any good result.

> > Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal

> > Sarpa yoga?

> > It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu

> > & Ketu, then it

> > becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous

> > combination.

> > However, books are being published under this name,

> > with suggested

> > remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy

> > by discussing

> > about this topic in newspapers, television &

> > internet with the

> > relevant information they have about the effects of

> > this yoga.

> > The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as

> > the "Kal" (meaning

> > a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) &

> > troubles the

> > native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today

> > are talking

> > about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Some of the

> > results, which they opine are, the native's fate is

> > damned, he

> > cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not

> > get a job or

> > his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may

> > suffer from

> > financial problems, problems in having offspring

> > etc. all such craps.

> > According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga,

> > if all the

> > planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one

> > or more planets

> > are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in

> > between, then it

> > is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga).

> > However if six

> > planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another

> > one is located in

> > the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga (Partial

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga).

> > Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga lead

> > more disastrous life than people having Total Kal

> > Sarpa Yoga.

> >

> > Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

> > Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics

> > of Vedic

> > astrology, but in this case the problem is that we

> > don't find

> > anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara

> > Hora Sastra,

> > Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita,

> > Phaladeepika, Jatak

> > Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar,

> > Jatakabharanam,

> > Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati,

> > even the modern

> > Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak

> > anything about this

> > Kal Sarpa Yoga.

> > Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa

> > Yoga in the

> > Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in

> > the volume of

> > December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While

> > discussing about

> > KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention

> > about its root.

> > However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY.

> > The sloka he

> > quoted is as under:-

> > agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

> > yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

> > -the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front &

> > ketu is at last

> > while all other planets are in between, then this

> > combination is

> > called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king

> > of destruction of

> > grains.

> > It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has

> > nothing to do with

> > personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to

> > mundane astrology

> > (Rashtriya Jyotish).

> > In that same magazine, another writer supported this

> > combination by

> > refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by

> > Varahamihira & he

> > wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is

> > Sun, Mars & Saturn

> > in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses

> > other than

> > kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the

> > chapter of nabhas

> > Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, &

> > in the texts of

> > Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

> > We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the

> > existence of Sarpa

> > Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas).

> > According to

> > him, if malefics are in Kendras then that

> > combination is known

> > as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi

> > Parasara to

> > support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat

> > Jatakam, also

> > named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga

> > didn't include

> > Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu

> > or Ketu hasn't

> > been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made

> > it clear about

> > the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu

> > triñu kendreñu

> > päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre

> > bhabati saumya

> > graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means

> > if Sun, Saturn &

> > Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other

> > planets are not in

> > kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the

> > Astrological

> > magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu

> > has got nothing

> > to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

> > We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference

> > in classical

> > texts, nor supported by any astrological texts,

> > because Maharshi

> > Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya,

> > Kalidas, Baidyanath

> > Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj

> > or famous

> > astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

> > Results of Rahu & Ketu

> > It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa

> > Yoga

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>Jyotish Learner <vedicastro_mind >

>vedic astrology

>vedic astrology

>Re: [vedic astrology] My research work on Kal Sarpa Yoga

>Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:48:01 +1000 (EST)

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>Good work Gaurav.

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> Keep it up.

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> Enjoy learning Jyotishi.

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> Warm Regards,

> JL

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> The Myth of Kal Sarpa Yoga

>The Mystery of Kal Sarpa Yoga "unveiled"

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>Introduction

>In the recent times, Kal Sarpa Yoga has become the most common point

>of discussion in the country. It is said that this is most ominous

>combination, all the beneficial roles of planets are destroyed & the

>native having Kal Sarpa yoga in his chart is said to be suffering

>through all kind of hardships throughout his life, while his

>hardship doesn't yield any good result.

>Now let's see what is the combination of this Kal Sarpa yoga?

>It is said that if all the planets are between Rahu & Ketu, then it

>becomes Kal Sarpa Yoga, giving result to an ominous combination.

>However, books are being published under this name, with suggested

>remedies etc. while astrologers keep themselves busy by discussing

>about this topic in newspapers, television & internet with the

>relevant information they have about the effects of this yoga.

>The word, "Kal Sarpa" itself frightens anybody as the "Kal" (meaning

>a bad period) takes the form of "Sarpa" (Snake) & troubles the

>native. For no reason, even the astrologers of today are talking

>about the frightening effects of Kal Sarpa Yoga. Some of the

>results, which they opine are, the native's fate is damned, he

>cannot earn name & fame in his/hers life, may not get a job or

>his/hers work atmosphere will never be good, may suffer from

>financial problems, problems in having offspring etc. all such craps.

>According to the modern "orators" of Kal Sarpa Yoga, if all the

>planets are within the half of Rahu & Ketu or if one or more planets

>are with Rahu or Ketu, while the others are in between, then it

>is, "Purna Kal Sarpa Yoga" (Total Kal Sarpa yoga). However if six

>planets are in between Rahu & Ketu, while another one is located in

>the other half, then it is termed as, "Ardha Kal Sarpa Yoga (Partial

>Kal Sarpa Yoga).

>Some of them say that people born with Partial Kal Sarpa Yoga lead

>more disastrous life than people having Total Kal Sarpa Yoga.

>

>Searching the classics for the existence of KSY

>Whenever a problem arises, we consult the classics of Vedic

>astrology, but in this case the problem is that we don't find

>anything regarding Kal Sarpa Yoga in Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra,

>Jaiminisutram, Brihat Jatakam, Uttar Kalamrita, Phaladeepika, Jatak

>Parijat, Sarbartha Chintamani, Bhabartharatnakar, Jatakabharanam,

>Sanketnidhi, Bhabakutuhalam, Manasagari Paddhati, even the modern

>Astro books like, jataktatwa etc. don't speak anything about this

>Kal Sarpa Yoga.

>Pundit Shree P.S. Sastri discussed about Kal Sarpa Yoga in the

>Astrological magazine published from Bangalore in the volume of

>December 1965, October 1987 & September 1994. While discussing about

>KSY, Mr. Sastri quoted a sloka, but didn't mention about its root.

>However he admitted that classics don't talk KSY. The sloka he

>quoted is as under:-

>agre rähuù ante ketu sarbe madhyagatä grahäù

>yogam kälasarpäkhyam nåpa çasya binäçanam

>-the meaning is quite clear. If rahu is at front & ketu is at last

>while all other planets are in between, then this combination is

>called Kal Sarpa Yoga & results into death of king of destruction of

>grains.

>It is clear that the above mentioned sloka has nothing to do with

>personal astrology (Jatak Jyotish) & is related to mundane astrology

>(Rashtriya Jyotish).

>In that same magazine, another writer supported this combination by

>refering it to classics like Brihat Jatakam by Varahamihira & he

>wrote about Sarpa Yoga, the condition of which is Sun, Mars & Saturn

>in kendras while the rest of the planets in houses other than

>kendras, & this combination is mentioned in the chapter of nabhas

>Yoga of Brihat Jatakam, Saravali by KalyanVarma, & in the texts of

>Badarayan, Manish & garga etc.

>We know that Varahamihira has discussed about the existence of Sarpa

>Yoga in his Brihat Jatakam(chapter of Nabhas Yogas). According to

>him, if malefics are in Kendras then that combination is known

>as "Sarpa Yoga", & he has taken the name of Maharshi Parasara to

>support this yoga. Bhattotpal, commentator of Brihat Jatakam, also

>named Mahrshi Manish & Badarayan. However, this yoga didn't include

>Rahu & Ketu, as in the texts of Varahamihira, Rahu or Ketu hasn't

>been accepted or any importance. Bhattotpal has made it clear about

>the condition for Sarpa Yoga, he says, "yeñu keñu triñu kendreñu

>päpakñaya süryabhaumasaurä tabanti na kaçcit kendre bhabati saumya

>graha tadä sarpo näm yogo bhabiçyati"---that means if Sun, Saturn &

>Mars occupy then it is Sarpa Yoga (while other planets are not in

>kendras). Dr. P.S. Shastri has said the same in the Astrological

>magazine of June, 1994. So we can see rahu or ketu has got nothing

>to do with this ominous yoga viz., Sarpa Yoga.

>We can deduce that Kal Sarpa Yoga has no reference in classical

>texts, nor supported by any astrological texts, because Maharshi

>Parasar, Jaimini, Varahamihira, Ramanujacharya, Kalidas, Baidyanath

>Dixit, Benkateswar Daivajna, Mantreswar, Chuntiraj or famous

>astrologers didn't accept this yoga.

>Results of Rahu & Ketu

>It is generally considered that one having Kal sarpa Yoga will have

>a ruined life will devastating results, as all other planets start

>acting as malefics as they lose their potential to do good--- thus

>violating the basic rule as prescribed by Maharshi Parasara. In his

>book Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, Maharshi Parasara has told us how

>to analyse the results of Rahu & Ketu-"yad yad bhävagato rähuù

>ketuçca janane nåëäm

>yad yad bhäbeçasaàyuktastat falaà pradiçedalam" , Rahu & ketu will

>give results according to their houses they are placed & according

>to the conditions the lord of those houses that are placed in a

>given chart. If rahu & ketu, who do not have any power of their won

>to give results, then how the good results of planets placed between

>Rahu & Ketu will nullify does not have any reasonable answer.

>It is clear according to Maharshi Parasara, that Rahu & Ketu does

>not have anything of their own(as they are Nodes).

>So we cant agree that presence of all planets between Rahu & ketu

>will nullify all the good results of the planets placed, & results

>into Kal Sarpa Yoga.

>Without any doubt, Rahu & Ketu are natural malefics and in Brihat

>Parasara Hora sastra we find many yogas formed by Rahu & Ketu

>alongwith any other malefics, but no yogas are mentioned, which is

>formed by Rahu & Ketu. We know that a planet's role (both as a

>benefic & a melefic) depends upon its natural, according to

>lordships, according to its position, according to combinations

>formed.As for Rahu & Ketu, they can't give results according to

>lorshipd, but they have a major role to play according to their

>placements. If Rahu & Ketu is posited in a benefic's house or

>related to any benefic, then definitely it will give good results,

>which has been seen in many of the charts.

>Now let us discuss on Rahu & ketu according to various classical

>literatures. In Laghu Parasari, in 2nd Chapter, 8th sloka, it is

>clearly said that if Rahu or Ketu are posited in Kendras or Trikonas

>& if they are related to lords of Kendras or Trikonas, then they

>become Rajyogakaraks.

>As you know, malefics if occupy Upachayas(3,6,10,11 houses from

>Lagna) then they give good results. So if Rahu & Ketu occupies the

>above said houses, no doubt they will give good results.

>In Manasagari Paddhati, a very similar sloka is very appropriate in

>the current context of discussion. In that very text, presence of

>Rahu in Brishabh, Kark, Simha & in Kanya have been eulogised & it is

>said that Rahu acts as a Rajyoga karaka. The results have been seen

>in many natives life, where Rahu is posted in any of the above signs

>of zodiac.

>In Bhavarthratnakar by Shree Ramanujacharya, we find that presence

>of Rahu in 4th, 5th, 10th, 11th, & in Kendras & konas & presence of

>ketu in 3rd bhava is considered to be auspicious & there it is said

>that Rahu & ketu in their own dasas will give results of similar to

>rajyoga (9th Chapter, Sloka-3-4). In the same text, Shree

>Ramanujacharya has considered Rahu to be a Rajyoga Karak, even if he

>occupies the 7th bhava.

>As said earlier in the same text viz., Laghu Parasari it is said

>that Rahu & ketu if occupies the kendras & konas & even if they are

>not related to kendra or trikona lords, still in their own antar

>dasas will give results similar to Raj Yogas (chapter 4, sloka 8).

>While discussing about Rahu bhukti under Rahu dasa, Maharshi Parasar

>says in his book that it is always auspicious to have Rahu in Kark,

>Dhanush, Kanya or Brischik (chapter 41 sloka 1) & in Shani Dasa Rahu

>Bhukti, he says that it is auspicious to have Rahu in Mesh,

>Brishabh, Karka, Simha, Kanya, Dhanush or in Meen (chapter 43 sloka

>67).

>As you all know that Sarbarth Chintamani is a good reference while

>analysing dasa results. In the same text the dasa results of rahu

>has been said to be good, provided it is posted in Mesh, Brishabh,

>Karkata, Kanya, Dhanu or in Meen (chapter 16, sloka 21 & 22).

>According to Phaladeepika dasa of Rahu is good when it is posted in

>signs like Kanya, Brischik or Meen (chapter 19, sloka 16).

>Moreover according to Maharshi Parasara, one should predict about

>ones wealth from the position of Rahu (chapter 14 sloka 19). It is

>expected from a learner of Jyotish to know that a well-placed Rahu

>in his dasa gives wealth.

>While speaking about the dasa results of Rahu when it is well

>placed, he says- All are beneficial for the native, be it regarding

>to Kingdom, begetting son, money, wealth, vehicles, construction of

>new home, patronised by the king etc. (chapter 36 sloka 42,46-49).

>Both Parasara & Jaimini are of the opinion that when Ketu is

>auspiciously placed it might result into Moksha.

>All these above said conditions are stated to prove that Rahu & Ketu

>are not always inauspicious & not at all inauspicious to minimise

>all the good effects of planets posted between them. So, Kal Sarpa

>Yoga is not established by the astrological writings & none of the

>classics mention about it.

>Predicting ones future using this Yoga

>Many of the Astrologers, who all believe this Yoga, tries to prove

>their prediction while using his yoga & if those natives have

>experienced anything ominous, then they rule out that Kal Sarpa Yoga

>is responsible for such ill effects. If one yoga is enough to

>nullify all good results & if ones relies upon a single yoga, then

>there is no point in talking about such yoga which is irrelevent.

>All the charts published in the "Astrological Magazine" regarding

>Kal Sarpa Yoga, was gone through by another learned astrologer & in

>the same Magazine, he said that all the ill results caused to those

>concerned persons are not due to Kal Sarpa Yoga, but due to the

>presence of planets in inauspicious places.

>Some examples

>Still, we are ready to accept such yoga, which is not supported by

>any classics. But for general belief, we need to give examples for

>proving what we decide, as we do in Science & in Arts. It is

>generally considered that one having Kal Sarpa Yoga suffers

>throughout his life, while "Ardha" Kal Sarpa Yoga is much

>more "poisonous" than "Purna" Kal Sarpa Yoga. Is it relevent to the

>present situation?? Or is it possible?? But we are surprised to find

>horoscopes of many famous personalities who had Kal Sarpa Yoga

>according to the "present" astrologers, still they had no problem in

>achieving success.

>Some example of Purna Kal Sarpa yoga:-

>1) Shree Shree Mahaprabhu Chaitanyadev- Simha Lagna, Moon & Ketu in

>Lagna, Sun, Mercury, Venus & Rahu in 7th, rest of the planets

>between Rahu & Ketu.

>2) Pt. Jawaharlal Nehru- Karkata lagna, Rahu in 12th, Jupiter with

>Ketu in 6th, rest of the planets between Rahu & Ketu.

>3) Scientist Dr. K.S. Krishnan- Mesh Lagna, Mercury & Rahu in 9th,

>Ketu in 3rd, rest of the planets between rahu & Ketu.

>There are plenty of examples but I don't want it to be unnecessarily

>large, so have refrained from giving more examples of Purna Kal

>Sarpa Yoga.

>Now, some examples of Ardha Kal Sarpa yoga or "Bhanga Kal Sarpa

>Yoga": -

>1) "Father of the Nation" Mahatma Gandhi- Except Jupiter, all

>planets are between Rahu & Ketu.

>2) Author of the book "Bande Mataram" Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay-

>Except Saturn, all planets are between Rahu & Ketu.

>3) Adi Shankaracharya- Except Saturn, all are between Rahu & Ketu.

>4) Swami Ramanujacharya- Except Jupiter, all planets are between

>Rahu & Ketu.

>5) Singer Hemanta Mukhopadhayay (better known as Hemant Kumar)-

>Except Mars, all planets are between Rahu & Ketu.

>The list is endless.

>Conclusion

>Thus we can deduce, that Kal Sarpa Yoga is nothing but

>a "cultivated" yoga, only to scare people who come to seek

>astrological advice. As the examples given above it is true that

>whatever incomplete they felt in their life, was due to planetary

>position, not due to the so called "Kal Sarpa Yoga". I have a number

>of horoscopes where there is presence of Kal Sarpa Yoga, but those

>persons have felt the height of success in their life, but inclusion

>of those examples will unnecessarily make this work pretty large.

>I have tried my best to support my article with relevent sources.

>Please forgive the shortcomings, if any.

>I am dedicating this article to my dear lord "Shree Salagram Sila

>rupi Shree NarasimhaNarayanji"….

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>Thanq,

>Wish u all success,

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