Guest guest Posted June 13, 2006 Report Share Posted June 13, 2006 If "om purnam adam purnam idam purnat purnam udachyate" is true and anyone can realise Krishna in one lifetime where is the question of avatar coming from? Some people treat even Guru as God even when they may not be using the term avatar. The question of avatar or no avatar is irrelevant and a waste of time. Reason: One is expected to review even Krishna based on scriptural guidelines ******************************************************************* It is NOT a PERSON CENTRIC approach. We have to follow v a PROCESS CENTRIC approach having SHASTRAS AS THE BASIS An external Guru is to be followed as long as he follows the shastras by v words v example v instructions. If not the “so called external Guru” has to be rejected in favor of instruction that one gets from chaitya Guru. ******************************************************************* Dharma - “Dharan karne yogya” – “that which is expected based on what is prescribed considering qualification/ limitation” such that one does not commit or allow others to commit aparadha “that which is Apa (undermining) to achieving Radha (bhakti –purest form of love)” v in themselves or v in others The ONLY recomended operating pattern is do your dharma in “doing the needful” for "markat nyay" till it becomes full "marjar nyaya" which means In markat nyaya: the ball is in my court In marjar nyaya: the ball is in Krishna's court. The decision rests on Him. The question of when and how will it become marjar nyaya is therefore irrelevant for us. See how Arjuna operates: Chaitya Guru operates many times when we happen to speak spontaneously Arjuna listens to Chaitya Guru + Godly principles (not envy but love) + scriptures + Drona à to learn archery Arjuna listens to Chaitya Guru + Godly principles (not envy but love) + scriptures + Drona à to bind Drupada Arjuna listens to Chaitya Guru + Godly principles (not envy but love) + scriptures+ Krishna à to fight Drona in Kurukshetra Arjuna listens to Chaitya Guru + Godly principles (not envy but love) + scriptures à to take stand against Krishna in Dwaraka when the Brahmana is hurt Note: Chaitya Guru + Godly principles (not envy but love) + scriptures is the ONLY thing that is mandatory in ALL of the above Anyone can be dependently empowered by the Lord if the Lord sanctions based on ajiva's desire. Note: forwarded message attached. It is mandatory in dealings with sincere seekers of GOD to NOT speak words without heart. It is better in prayer to have a heart without words than words without heart. ********************************************************************************** ALWAYS REMEMBER KRISHNA AND NEVER FORGET HIM. "If GOD brings you to it, He will bring you through it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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