enjoying more than the Lord?

[Guest guest]

> Maharaj, I couldn't find any reference in Adi 4 ch regarding the living

> entity enjoying on an equal or higher level than the Lord. All statements

> are in regard to Sakti-tattvas who are (as stated in the chapter)

> nondifferent from Krsna. Would be interesting to find some specific

> reference about the jiva-tattvas because in the purport to 1.13.42 Srila

> Prabhupada speaks about the living entiy enjoying the life of freedom.

 

madan mohana has listed the references I refered to nicely.

 

TridaNDi BhikSu, Bhakti Visrambha MAdhava

[Guest guest]

Thanks to all the devotees who wrote me to clarify this point. Srila

Prabhupada has explained it perfectly here, sent to me by a devotee from

London:

 

> Madhudvisa: Prabhupada, I read in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Volume Three,

> that

> when one becomes a liberated soul, he attains perfect freedom, and even

> sometimes that freedom is on the same level as Krsna or even more than

> Krsna.

> Prabhupada: Yes.

> Madhudvisa: Can you explain that?

> Prabhupada: Yes. Just like this Vasudeva, he's more than Krsna. Yasoda,

> you

> have seen the picture? Yasoda is binding Krsna.

> Madhudvisa: Oh, the little baby. Yes.

> Prabhupada: Yes, He has become... The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who

> is, I mean to say, afraid, who is fearful by everyone, Yasoda..., and

> Krsna

> has become fearful to Yasoda: "My dear mother, kindly do not bind Me. I

> shall obey your orders." So Yasoda has become more than God, more than

> Krsna. The Mayavadi philosophers, they want to be one with Krsna or one

> with

> Lord, but our philosophy is to become more than Krsna. (laughter) Why one

> with Krsna? More than Krsna. And actually He accepts. He makes His devotee

> more than Krsna. Just like Arjuna and Krsna. Krsna took the part of a

> driver, and he was the hero of the fight. Actually, Krsna was the hero,

> but

> He gave position to His devotee: "You become the hero, I shall become your

> charioteer." That's all. Don't you see how Arjuna has become more than

> Krsna? Krsna says, "Arjuna, you are hesitating to fight, but you know that

> all these person who have assembled in this battlefield, they are not

> going

> back. They are already killed. That is My plan. You simply take the credit

> that you have killed them. That's all." (laughter) That He wants. Just

> like

> a father wants a son to see him more than himself. If a father is an M.A.,

> he wants to see his son M.A., Ph.D., or something more. He's satisfied.

> He'll not tolerate anybody to become more than him, but he'll tolerate if

> his son becomes more than him. I'm giving you a crude example. Similarly,

> Krsna, or the Lord, wants to see His devotee more than Himself. That is

> His

> pleasure. He takes pleasure in that. So to become a devotee is not

> ordinary

> thing. You see. He has got the chance to become more than God. Why equal

> with God, one with God? No. More than God. Yes. That is our philosophy.

> Yes.

>

> Lecture -- Los Angeles, November 13, 1968