Guest guest Posted June 14, 2006 Report Share Posted June 14, 2006 Namaste, One of my friend named Sri.Kasiligam,Prop.Grocery shop,Palani is a debtor.He is on the verge of Bankruptcy.His declaring insolvency not supported by his family as it may mar his family reputation; he also have daughters next in line for marriage.Please go through the horoscope and suggest some remedial messaures both astrologically and spiritually. DOB: 14.06.1960 @ 3.11 PM @ Palani , TamilNadu .India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Dear Shri.KR ji, The native you have referred to , under goes Ragu AD in Sani MD.His dasa bukthi and gochara apparently suggests him a flourishing time.However further explorations indicate that he may have financial crunch; his functional benefic Sani(MD lord) and Laabhathipathy Sun (afflicted functional malafic inflects more damage ) are afflicted by Ragu(AD lord) and are inter connected . The following are astrological remedial measures :- A small amount of repayment, (1) In a “Mitra-Mukurtha” or (2) In Gulika rising Lagna combined with Vishti karana falling on a Tuesday/Saturday/Sunday/ coinciding with Navami/ Chaturdasi/Chaturthi or (3) At the begining of Lagna Thajyam with a malefic associated in the 8th house or (4) On Sani pradhosha kaalam Chara Lagna or (5) During the Gragana mokshakaalam (eclipse ending time) Lagna coinciding Vyatipata yoga . On any of the above referred mukurtha combined with Chandra – Thaara phalam , if he makes a meagre repayment to begin with ; he would soon be relived of his debts. Spiritual remedies:- He may worship and pray to KalaBhairav at his nearest temple on all Sundays early morning in Surya hora and appease his Karana – Tithi graga Sukra . Further suggestions are welcomed from Shri.Sanjay Prabhakaran ,SJC Gurus and other members. With regards, D.SathiyanarayanaGupta. KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham > wrote: Namaste, One of my friend named Sri.Kasiligam,Prop.Grocery shop,Palani is a debtor.He is on the verge of Bankruptcy.His declaring insolvency not supported by his family as it may mar his family reputation; he also have daughters next in line for marriage.Please go through the horoscope and suggest some remedial messaures both astrologically and spiritually. DOB: 14.06.1960 @ 3.11 PM @ Palani , TamilNadu .India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Namaste, Sri.Gupta ji, Thank you very much for your kind debt relief suggestions.Your suggestions 2 to 5 is easy to understand and follow. I request you or the other list members to explain “Mitra-Mukurtha” for my benefit as well as for benefit of others who wants to know what it is ?.. Sathiyanarayana Gupta <gupta816 > wrote: Dear Shri.KR ji, The native you have referred to , under goes Ragu AD in Sani MD.His dasa bukthi and gochara apparently suggests him a flourishing time.However further explorations indicate that he may have financial crunch; his functional benefic Sani(MD lord) and Laabhathipathy Sun (afflicted functional malafic inflects more damage ) are afflicted by Ragu(AD lord) and are inter connected . The following are astrological remedial measures :- A small amount of repayment, (1) In a “Mitra-Mukurtha” or (2) In Gulika rising Lagna combined with Vishti karana falling on a Tuesday/Saturday/Sunday/ coinciding with Navami/ Chaturdasi/Chaturthi or (3) At the begining of Lagna Thajyam with a malefic associated in the 8th house or (4) On Sani pradhosha kaalam Chara Lagna or (5) During the Gragana mokshakaalam (eclipse ending time) Lagna coinciding Vyatipata yoga . On any of the above referred mukurtha combined with Chandra – Thaara phalam , if he makes a meagre repayment to begin with ; he would soon be relived of his debts. Spiritual remedies:- He may worship and pray to KalaBhairav at his nearest temple on all Sundays early morning in Surya hora and appease his Karana – Tithi graga Sukra . Further suggestions are welcomed from Shri.Sanjay Prabhakaran ,SJC Gurus and other members. With regards, D.SathiyanarayanaGupta. KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham > wrote: Namaste, One of my friend named Sri.Kasiligam,Prop.Grocery shop,Palani is a debtor.He is on the verge of Bankruptcy.His declaring insolvency not supported by his family as it may mar his family reputation; he also have daughters next in line for marriage.Please go through the horoscope and suggest some remedial messaures both astrologically and spiritually. DOB: 14.06.1960 @ 3.11 PM @ Palani , TamilNadu .India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Friends, A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd house. (Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva) 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. I just stress here that these people, who had Guru in 2nd, some how were responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies and that resulted in reputation of their family taking a beating. Tatvam-Asi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Shri Tatvam-Asi, The follwoing chart happens to be of my relative. His chart has JUP in his Rashi chart. His first wife commited suicide and got married again. He does not have peace in his family life. He has 4 children and in great troubles. Currently he is running SAT MD. His chart shows that SAT is yogakaraka beside badhaka. Would you please comment on this. Best regards, Ueda vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > > > Friends, > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd house. (Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva) > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > I just stress here that these people, who had Guru in 2nd, some how were responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies and that resulted in reputation of their family taking a beating. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Shri Tatvam-Asi, The follwoing chart happens to be of my relative. His chart has JUP in his Rashi chart. His first wife commited suicide and got married again. He does not have peace in his family life. He has 4 children and in great troubles. Currently he is running SAT MD. His chart shows that SAT is yogakaraka beside badhaka. Would you please comment on this. Best regards, Ueda Natal Chart October 16, 1953 Time: 21:35:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 10' 00", 14 N 12' 00" Rajampet, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vijaya - Aswayuja Tithi: Sukla Navami (Su) (70.39% left) Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (4.92% left) Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (56.50% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (40.78% left) Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Sc) Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Li) Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter) Sunrise: 6:07:59 Sunset: 17:49:55 Janma Ghatis: 38.6256 Ayanamsa: 23-12-57.14 Sidereal Time: 23:01:10 vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > > > Friends, > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd house. (Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva) > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > I just stress here that these people, who had Guru in 2nd, some how were responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies and that resulted in reputation of their family taking a beating. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Namaste, I personally know charts that have guru in second and are very well to do financially. .... On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: > > > > Friends, > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > Jeeva) > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > I just stress here that these people, who had Guru in 2nd, some how were > responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies and that resulted in > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear Ueda, 2nd house vakri Guru is his undoing. Tatvam-Asi --- jptr5555 <jptr5555 > wrote: > > Shri Tatvam-Asi, > The follwoing chart happens to be of my relative. > His chart has JUP > in his Rashi chart. His first wife commited suicide > and got married > again. He does not have peace in his family life. He > has 4 children > and in great troubles. Currently he is running SAT > MD. His chart > shows that SAT is yogakaraka beside badhaka. Would > you please > comment on this. > Best regards, > Ueda > > > > Natal Chart > > October 16, 1953 > Time: 21:35:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 79 E 10' 00", 14 N 12' 00" > Rajampet, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Vijaya - Aswayuja > Tithi: Sukla Navami (Su) (70.39% left) > Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) > Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (4.92% left) > Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (56.50% left) > Karana: Balava (Mo) (40.78% left) > Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Sc) > Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Li) > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter) > > Sunrise: 6:07:59 > Sunset: 17:49:55 > Janma Ghatis: 38.6256 > > Ayanamsa: 23-12-57.14 > Sidereal Time: 23:01:10 > > > > > vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi > <nameisego > wrote: > > > > > > > > Friends, > > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd > house. (Bhava > Nasha Karo Jeeva) > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had > Guru in 2nd, some > how were responsible for a lot of debts and > bancruptcies and that > resulted in reputation of their family taking a > beating. > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 I personally know of people having been born in Millionair's homes, have taken huge liabilities and people do not trust them any more. Guru in one case is exalted in 2nd. --- Panditji <navagraha > wrote: > Namaste, > > I personally know charts that have guru in second > and are very well to do > financially. > > ... > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: > > > > > > > > Friends, > > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd > house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > > Jeeva) > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had Guru > in 2nd, some how were > > responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies > and that resulted in > > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Thats the point. You know a few that have been indebted by guru in second and I know people who are not in debt and are finacially very sound. One can not apply one principle in isolation. I am sure we can find charts where what you say apples and charts where what you say does not apply. Ofcousre after knowing the what the situation is one can use any principle to one's convenience. That is what is currently happening in jyotish with myriads of parameters being sported so any graha can give any result regardless of placement or lodship. If the rashi chart does not give you the known answer, ofcourse the amshas used as divisional charts can do so. If not, go to arudhas, one can justify any event in any chart. .... On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: > > > I personally know of people having been born in > Millionair's homes, have taken huge liabilities and > people do not trust them any more. > Guru in one case is exalted in 2nd. > > > --- Panditji <navagraha <navagraha%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > I personally know charts that have guru in second > > and are very well to do > > financially. > > > > ... > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego <nameisego%40>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd > > house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > > > Jeeva) > > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had Guru > > in 2nd, some how were > > > responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies > > and that resulted in > > > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 my guru is in second house in capricorn and i am financially sound and i heard any planet comes in 2nd house become a benefactor ram --- Panditji <navagraha > wrote: > Thats the point. You know a few that have been > indebted by guru in second > and I know people who are not in debt and are > finacially very sound. One can > not apply one principle in isolation. I am sure we > can find charts where > what you say apples and charts where what you say > does not apply. Ofcousre > after knowing the what the situation is one can use > any principle to one's > convenience. That is what is currently happening in > jyotish with myriads of > parameters being sported so any graha can give any > result regardless of > placement or lodship. If the rashi chart does not > give you the known answer, > ofcourse the amshas used as divisional charts can do > so. If not, go to > arudhas, one can justify any event in any chart. > > ... > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: > > > > > > I personally know of people having been born in > > Millionair's homes, have taken huge liabilities > and > > people do not trust them any more. > > Guru in one case is exalted in 2nd. > > > > > > --- Panditji <navagraha > <navagraha%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > I personally know charts that have guru in > second > > > and are very well to do > > > financially. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > <nameisego%40>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > A long time back I had written about Guru in > 2nd > > > house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > > > > Jeeva) > > > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had > Guru > > > in 2nd, some how were > > > > responsible for a lot of debts and > bancruptcies > > > and that resulted in > > > > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Let us agree to disagree --- Panditji <navagraha > wrote: > Thats the point. You know a few that have been > indebted by guru in second > and I know people who are not in debt and are > finacially very sound. One can > not apply one principle in isolation. I am sure we > can find charts where > what you say apples and charts where what you say > does not apply. Ofcousre > after knowing the what the situation is one can use > any principle to one's > convenience. That is what is currently happening in > jyotish with myriads of > parameters being sported so any graha can give any > result regardless of > placement or lodship. If the rashi chart does not > give you the known answer, > ofcourse the amshas used as divisional charts can do > so. If not, go to > arudhas, one can justify any event in any chart. > > ... > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: > > > > > > I personally know of people having been born in > > Millionair's homes, have taken huge liabilities > and > > people do not trust them any more. > > Guru in one case is exalted in 2nd. > > > > > > --- Panditji <navagraha > <navagraha%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > I personally know charts that have guru in > second > > > and are very well to do > > > financially. > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > <nameisego%40>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > A long time back I had written about Guru in > 2nd > > > house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > > > > Jeeva) > > > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had > Guru > > > in 2nd, some how were > > > > responsible for a lot of debts and > bancruptcies > > > and that resulted in > > > > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 dear tatvam ji even though we exchanged long threads on this subject earlier, i wish to clarify or get clarified for once and all. the maxim "bhava nasha karo jeeva" seems like the offspring of the generalised "karako bhava nashaka" under which you can liberally quote: bhava nasha karo surya bhava nasha karo chandra bhava nasha karo bhouma bhava nasha karo budha bhava nasha karo jeeva bhava nasha karo shukra bhava nasha karo shani bhava nasha karo rahu bhava nasha karo ketu however, it seems shani was given the exception which sounds illogical, nay, it is attributed to improve the bhava. with so many contradictions and finding presence only in medieval books and not in origianl samhitas, this generalised rule of karako bhava nashaka" holds no water. also any references of this maxim and why it so happens from ancient classics, not modern researchers. hope we can have an academic debate on this to agree to agree or agree to disagree. with best wishes pandit arjun vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > Let us agree to disagree > > > > --- Panditji <navagraha wrote: > > > Thats the point. You know a few that have been > > indebted by guru in second > > and I know people who are not in debt and are > > finacially very sound. One can > > not apply one principle in isolation. I am sure we > > can find charts where > > what you say apples and charts where what you say > > does not apply. Ofcousre > > after knowing the what the situation is one can use > > any principle to one's > > convenience. That is what is currently happening in > > jyotish with myriads of > > parameters being sported so any graha can give any > > result regardless of > > placement or lodship. If the rashi chart does not > > give you the known answer, > > ofcourse the amshas used as divisional charts can do > > so. If not, go to > > arudhas, one can justify any event in any chart. > > > > ... > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > > > > > > > > I personally know of people having been born in > > > Millionair's homes, have taken huge liabilities > > and > > > people do not trust them any more. > > > Guru in one case is exalted in 2nd. > > > > > > > > > --- Panditji <navagraha > > <navagraha%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > I personally know charts that have guru in > > second > > > > and are very well to do > > > > financially. > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > > <nameisego%40>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > A long time back I had written about Guru in > > 2nd > > > > house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > > > > > Jeeva) > > > > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > > > > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had > > Guru > > > > in 2nd, some how were > > > > > responsible for a lot of debts and > > bancruptcies > > > > and that resulted in > > > > > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear Arjun Ji, I am neither a scholar , nor a vidwan . Actually I have lost interest in debating . It is such a tiring exercise to show oneupmanship as it is happening nowadays on board. If you want, I will say I yield. I will say Guru improves the house he sits and Sani destroys the house he sits.. Hope this makes all Guru vadis happy. Tatvam-Asi panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear tatvam ji even though we exchanged long threads on this subject earlier, i wish to clarify or get clarified for once and all. the maxim "bhava nasha karo jeeva" seems like the offspring of the generalised "karako bhava nashaka" under which you can liberally quote: bhava nasha karo surya bhava nasha karo chandra bhava nasha karo bhouma bhava nasha karo budha bhava nasha karo jeeva bhava nasha karo shukra bhava nasha karo shani bhava nasha karo rahu bhava nasha karo ketu however, it seems shani was given the exception which sounds illogical, nay, it is attributed to improve the bhava. with so many contradictions and finding presence only in medieval books and not in origianl samhitas, this generalised rule of karako bhava nashaka" holds no water. also any references of this maxim and why it so happens from ancient classics, not modern researchers. hope we can have an academic debate on this to agree to agree or agree to disagree. with best wishes pandit arjun vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > Let us agree to disagree > > > > --- Panditji <navagraha wrote: > > > Thats the point. You know a few that have been > > indebted by guru in second > > and I know people who are not in debt and are > > finacially very sound. One can > > not apply one principle in isolation. I am sure we > > can find charts where > > what you say apples and charts where what you say > > does not apply. Ofcousre > > after knowing the what the situation is one can use > > any principle to one's > > convenience. That is what is currently happening in > > jyotish with myriads of > > parameters being sported so any graha can give any > > result regardless of > > placement or lodship. If the rashi chart does not > > give you the known answer, > > ofcourse the amshas used as divisional charts can do > > so. If not, go to > > arudhas, one can justify any event in any chart. > > > > ... > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > > > > > > > > I personally know of people having been born in > > > Millionair's homes, have taken huge liabilities > > and > > > people do not trust them any more. > > > Guru in one case is exalted in 2nd. > > > > > > > > > --- Panditji <navagraha > > <navagraha%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > I personally know charts that have guru in > > second > > > > and are very well to do > > > > financially. > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > > <nameisego%40>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > A long time back I had written about Guru in > > 2nd > > > > house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > > > > > Jeeva) > > > > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > > > > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had > > Guru > > > > in 2nd, some how were > > > > > responsible for a lot of debts and > > bancruptcies > > > > and that resulted in > > > > > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Namaste, I see no birth info in your mail. One thing I can stress is that the level or magnitude of a yoga is hard to guage. If there are dhana yogas in a chart and right dashas have run their course one can say that a person is well to do. Whether that means millionaire or multi millionaire or billionaire is diffucult to gauge. .... On 6/16/06, KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM <munisevitham > wrote: > > Namaste, > Tatvam-Asi ji and Pandit ji, > Given below are two birth info.of ivdividuals,could it be posible to > assert that they are Millionair / Fakir either by our focus on Guru alone or > on a holistic view. > I have miserably failed in my attempt. > > Tatvam-Asi <nameisego <nameisego%40>> wrote: > I personally know of people having been born in > Millionair's homes, have taken huge liabilities and > people do not trust them any more. > Guru in one case is exalted in 2nd. > > --- Panditji <navagraha <navagraha%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > Namaste, > > > > I personally know charts that have guru in second > > and are very well to do > > financially. > > > > ... > > > > > > On 6/15/06, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego <nameisego%40>> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd > > house. (Bhava Nasha Karo > > > Jeeva) > > > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > > > > > I just stress here that these people, who had Guru > > in 2nd, some how were > > > responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies > > and that resulted in > > > reputation of their family taking a beating. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Please check the birth details again. I get Libra lagna (11:56 degrees), Capricorn Navamsa with dasa of YK Saturn. This is not in consonance with your description. In all probability, Saturn dasa (1993-2012) must give him very good finanaces. Please check the birth details again. Also write if the problem occured only in recent years. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM vedic astrology Cc: sanjaychettiar ; gupta816 Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:53 AM [vedic astrology] Bankruptcy mars family reputations. Namaste, One of my friend named Sri.Kasiligam,Prop.Grocery shop,Palani is a debtor.He is on the verge of Bankruptcy.His declaring insolvency not supported by his family as it may mar his family reputation; he also have daughters next in line for marriage.Please go through the horoscope and suggest some remedial messaures both astrologically and spiritually. DOB: 14.06.1960 @ 3.11 PM @ Palani , TamilNadu .India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Further to what Sri P. Kumar has stated, why is everyone talking about Jupiter in the 2nd house? I am getting Jupiter in the 3rd house for the chart in question. Am I making a mistake or there is something different that others are doing? Atleast the chart should be right. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 6/20/06, P Kumar <pkumar24 > wrote: > > Please check the birth details again. I get Libra lagna (11:56 degrees), > Capricorn Navamsa with dasa of YK Saturn. This is not in consonance with > your description. In all probability, Saturn dasa (1993-2012) must give him > very good finanaces. Please check the birth details again. Also write if the > problem occured only in recent years. > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > - > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> > Cc: sanjaychettiar <sanjaychettiar%40gmail.com> ; > gupta816 <gupta816%40> > Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:53 AM > [vedic astrology] Bankruptcy mars family reputations. > > Namaste, > One of my friend named Sri.Kasiligam,Prop.Grocery shop,Palani is a > debtor.He is on the verge of Bankruptcy.His declaring insolvency not > supported by his family as it may mar his family reputation; he also have > daughters next in line for marriage.Please go through the horoscope and > suggest some remedial messaures both astrologically and spiritually. > DOB: 14.06.1960 @ 3.11 PM @ Palani , TamilNadu .India. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Namaste, My request for astrological solutions for the given situation, seem to have been well met with the reply message 76056 of 15th June 2006 by Sri.D.Sathiyanarayana Gupta ji ,which is appended for your ready reference, quote -- " Dear Shri.KR ji, The native you have referred to , under goes Ragu AD in Sani MD.His dasa bukthi and gochara apparently suggests him a flourishing time.However further explorations indicate that he may have financial crunch; his functional benefic Sani(MD lord) and Laabhathipathy Sun (afflicted functional malefic inflects more damage ) are afflicted by Ragu(AD lord) and are inter connected . The following are astrological remedial measures :- A small amount of repayment, (1) In a “Mitra-Mukurtha†or (2) In Gulika rising Lagna combined with Vishti karana falling on a Tuesday/Saturday/Sunday/ coinciding with Navami/ Chaturdasi/Chaturthi or (3) At the beginning of Lagna Thajyam with a malefic associated in the 8th house or (4) On Sani pradhosha kaalam Chara Lagna or (5) During the Gragana mokshakaalam (eclipse ending time) Lagna coinciding Vyatipata yoga . On any of the above referred mukurtha combined with Chandra – Thaara phalam , if he makes a meager repayment to begin with ; he would soon be relived of his debts. Spiritual remedies:- He may worship and pray to KalaBhairav at his nearest temple on all Sundays early morning in Surya hora and appease his Karana – Tithi graga Sukra . Further suggestions are welcomed from Shri.Sanjay Prabhakaran ,SJC Gurus and other members. With regards, D.SathiyanarayanaGupta. ---- unquote,any other astrological suggestions are also welcomed. P.S:I presume that my original subject title " Bankruptcy mars family reputations " has been subsiquently adopted by Tatvam-Asi to establish his contention Guru in the 2nd house ...... which has resulted in the present confisions. P Kumar <pkumar24 > wrote: Please check the birth details again. I get Libra lagna (11:56 degrees), Capricorn Navamsa with dasa of YK Saturn. This is not in consonance with your description. In all probability, Saturn dasa (1993-2012) must give him very good finanaces. Please check the birth details again. Also write if the problem occured only in recent years. P.Kumar (Mumbai) - KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM vedic astrology Cc: sanjaychettiar ; gupta816 Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:53 AM [vedic astrology] Bankruptcy mars family reputations. Namaste, One of my friend named Sri.Kasiligam,Prop.Grocery shop,Palani is a debtor.He is on the verge of Bankruptcy.His declaring insolvency not supported by his family as it may mar his family reputation; he also have daughters next in line for marriage.Please go through the horoscope and suggest some remedial messaures both astrologically and spiritually. DOB: 14.06.1960 @ 3.11 PM @ Palani , TamilNadu .India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Your description seems to match. But, you should give timings of important events like suicide by the wife and first marriage and remarriage etc. Also, describe in brief his financial and professional life too. P.Kumar - jptr5555 vedic astrology Friday, June 16, 2006 4:23 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Bankruptcy mars family reputations. Shri Tatvam-Asi, The follwoing chart happens to be of my relative. His chart has JUP in his Rashi chart. His first wife commited suicide and got married again. He does not have peace in his family life. He has 4 children and in great troubles. Currently he is running SAT MD. His chart shows that SAT is yogakaraka beside badhaka. Would you please comment on this. Best regards, Ueda Natal Chart October 16, 1953 Time: 21:35:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 10' 00", 14 N 12' 00" Rajampet, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Vijaya - Aswayuja Tithi: Sukla Navami (Su) (70.39% left) Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) Nakshatra: Uttarashadha (Su) (4.92% left) Yoga: Dhriti (Ra) (56.50% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (40.78% left) Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Sc) Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Li) Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter) Sunrise: 6:07:59 Sunset: 17:49:55 Janma Ghatis: 38.6256 Ayanamsa: 23-12-57.14 Sidereal Time: 23:01:10 vedic astrology, Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: > > > > Friends, > A long time back I had written about Guru in 2nd house. (Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva) > 2nd house also is Kutumba Sthanam. > > I just stress here that these people, who had Guru in 2nd, some how were responsible for a lot of debts and bancruptcies and that resulted in reputation of their family taking a beating. > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 16:52:45 +0100 (BST) rama narayanan <sree88ganesha (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: [vedic astrology] Bankruptcy mars family reputations. vedic astrology SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Shri Bharat, Namaste. Guru is in Dhanur in the 3rd house only. Sani the vakra dasanatha is no mood to act as per the desires of the lagna lord and atmakaraka Venus as he is placed in 6th from it. The navamsa dispositor of Sani is Mars who is the lord of 12th from AL. Given time may not be correct. Kumbha navamsa beautifully answers the doubts. Sani is associated with Guru who is in marana karaka sthana. When viewed from AL Sani should also be considered in marana karaka sthana. Guru is in unfavourable domain of Yama in dasamsa. As Sani has to convey the effects of Guru and since he is placed in 10th in navamsa being the lord of 12th(Kumbha navamsa) and since the karma-karaka Buda is in the dwara of Sani/AL(MKS) the dasa is behaving unfavourably. With reference to Sani placed in Dhanu we find a bandana caused by Mars & Rahu. Mars whose antardasa currently is on is likely to treat HL and A9 as unfriendly. In Nakshantramsa the 2nd lord Mars is in the unfavourable domain of Agni. Worship of Srikrisna on a Thursday coinciding with Dwitiya/Dasami, remedial measures for removal of Brahmana saapa, Chanting OM NAMO BHAGAVATE VASUDEVAYA (4 MAALAS a day in the evening), doing Lakshmi ashtotara on a daily basis after lighting a lamp and chanting "OM NAMASIVAAYA NAMO RAMESWARAAYA" (432 TIMES A DAY IN THE MORNING) will be helpful. Dhanapada is placed in 3rd from AL indicating the dependence of family on his status/him. Best wishes. May Mother Bless. Astrologically & spiritually yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. Bharat Hindu Astrology <hinduastrology > wrote: Further to what Sri P. Kumar has stated, why is everyone talking about Jupiter in the 2nd house? I am getting Jupiter in the 3rd house for the chart in question. Am I making a mistake or there is something different that others are doing? Atleast the chart should be right. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 6/20/06, P Kumar <pkumar24 > wrote: > > Please check the birth details again. I get Libra lagna (11:56 degrees), > Capricorn Navamsa with dasa of YK Saturn. This is not in consonance with > your description. In all probability, Saturn dasa (1993-2012) must give him > very good finanaces. Please check the birth details again. Also write if the > problem occured only in recent years. > > P.Kumar (Mumbai) > > > - > KARUNAAKARAM RAAGHAVAM > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40> > Cc: sanjaychettiar <sanjaychettiar%40gmail.com> ; > gupta816 <gupta816%40> > Thursday, June 15, 2006 4:53 AM > [vedic astrology] Bankruptcy mars family reputations. > > Namaste, > One of my friend named Sri.Kasiligam,Prop.Grocery shop,Palani is a > debtor.He is on the verge of Bankruptcy.His declaring insolvency not > supported by his family as it may mar his family reputation; he also have > daughters next in line for marriage.Please go through the horoscope and > suggest some remedial messaures both astrologically and spiritually. > DOB: 14.06.1960 @ 3.11 PM @ Palani , TamilNadu .India. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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